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[106.69.115.131]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u24sm14661527pfm.51.2020.11.29.16.09.34 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 29 Nov 2020 16:09:35 -0800 (PST) References: <837dq4mcb1.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft4rrhad.fsf@kyleam.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.7; emacs 27.1.50 From: Tim Cross To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87r1obyabn.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 11:09:32 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::42c; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x42c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.41 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=XW1hSYDJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: VQqc1/F8Ibts daniela-spit@gmx.it writes: >> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:51 PM >> From: "Gyro Funch" >> To: daniela-spit@gmx.it, "Kyle Meyer" >> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> Subject: Re[2]: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options >> >> > >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:20 PM >> >> From: "Kyle Meyer" >> >> To: daniela-spit@gmx.it >> >> Cc: "gyro funch" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> >> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options >> >> >> >>daniela-spit@gmx.it writes: >> >> >> >> >> From: "gyro funch" >> >> [...] >> >> >> If I'm not mistaken, all of the development is done by volunteers. >> >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps you could help resolve your issue instead of asking other >> >> >> people, who are likely already overworked, to shoulder the burden. >> >> > >> >> > Is there a mailing list for abuse? If I want abuse I shall ask for it. >> >> > Loser! >> > >> >> I don't see anything that gyro said as abuse. Name calling, on the >> >> other hand, has no place on this list. >> > >> >One asks for help, and people tell you to go fix it yourself. If there >> >is any disrespect, you bring it upon yourselves. And now you start. >> >Another Gnu Goon. >> >> I have found that people on this list are extremely friendly, courteous, >> and helpful. >> I suggest that you look back at the way you asked for/demanded help and >> the various responses you gave in this thread. >> Taking on an attitude of entitlement and showing a lack of respect for >> others, their perspectives, and efforts may not be the best way to get >> help. > > Nonsense. Not nonsense at all. You responses have become rude and unhelpful. I can understand how you may be frustrated by the bug reporting situation, but your response to that frustration has been to complain and be critical in a very non-constructive manner. You have now descended into name calling and personal abuse. You are beginning to exhibit behaviour which is not welcome here and which will result in people ignoring your posts. Multiple people have now pointed this out, which should make you stop and think rather than become emotional and respond defensively. the ball is now in your court. How you respond will influence how others respond to your requests and suggestions going forward. -- Tim Cross