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From: Dominik Schrempf <dominik.schrempf@gmail.com>
To: Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Cc: org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 14:05:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r16vtpmp.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF-FPGM-Gb+x=yVm5BOY7Z71UYQiTsCwdC9XnR9F8DGVt9GXMA@mail.gmail.com>

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“Bruce D’Arcus” <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:41 AM Dominik Schrempf
> <dominik.schrempf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, I can use `citar-insert-edit` to perform this action.
>
> You can actually just use org-cite-insert, which is context aware.
>
>> Now, I failed to create a full citation in the text. This corresponds to the
>> `\fullcite{}’ command in LaTeX. Is there an option for this?
>
> No, but we should add one, as natbib has a similar command.
>
> And, of course, per Timothy’s point, you can customize
> org-cite-biblatex-styles to include it in the meantime. If you want to
> experiment with this, contact me off-list, as there’s some nuances
> with citar.

Great, that was easy, thank you:

(add-to-list ’org-cite-biblatex-styles ’(“full” nil “fullcite” nil nil))

(This or something similar should be added upstream).

>
>> In summary, it is a bit painful to use `org-cite` compared to using `org-ref`.
>> In my opinion, the main reasons are:
>>
>> • Documentation is missing for `org-cite`.
>> • The citation commands seem to be incomplete (or at least not documented).
>
> The documentation is admittedly thin. Thoughts on what we should add?
>
> The styles, and how to customize them with oc-biblatex?

I know writing documentation is a lot of work. It is easy to complain, but hard
to contribute. I think we need:
• A complete description of styles and variants (for the actual citation
  command, and also for `#+cite_export: ...') or at least a link to an
  up-to-date table.
• An improved description of the capabilities of `org-cite-insert' (i.e., that
  it can change the citation style and variant).

>
> Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-21 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-20 12:08 citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-20 14:08   ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 14:38     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21  0:31   ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21  1:39     ` Timothy
2022-03-21  8:16       ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 11:51         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 12:34           ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:52             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 13:05               ` Dominik Schrempf [this message]
2022-03-21 13:24                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 21:27                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 21:53                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 22:04                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 22:47                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-24 10:04                         ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:19       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:42         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:06           ` John Kitchin
2022-04-19 22:37             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21  3:27     ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-21 11:51       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 17:20         ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 15:53         ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:33           ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 15:44             ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 17:10         ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-26 12:41           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-27 19:40           ` John Kitchin
2022-03-28 12:34             ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-28 13:16               ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-29 15:22                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-29 16:14                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-30 13:50                     ` Denis Maier
2022-03-31 15:10                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-31 17:27                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-04-02 11:41                         ` org-cite, CSL styles and space before citation Max Nikulin
2022-03-30 21:43                   ` citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:59     ` juh
2022-03-22 13:03       ` indieterminacy
2022-03-23 21:06     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-27 17:00       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:17         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:40   ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-21 15:19     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 17:00       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-25 15:21         ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 14:41       ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 17:20         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 12:44           ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 14:39             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 15:26               ` Eric S Fraga
2022-03-23 17:17               ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 22:50                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-26 19:08               ` M. Pger
2022-03-22 23:52     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 16:30       ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 23:04         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-25 16:30           ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:38           ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:18             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-20 18:12   ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-03-20 20:13     ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 20:30       ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 20:34       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 22:10         ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 19:44   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 21:14     ` chris
2022-03-21 14:21       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 14:10     ` John Kitchin

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