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From: Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@iki.fi>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The fate of ob-asymptote.el
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:23:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r12841gf.fsf@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87o7xcd4sv.fsf@localhost


Greetings Ihor.

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@iki.fi> writes:
>
>>> Then, would it make more sense to include ob-asymptote.el into the
>>> asymptote distribution?
>>
>> I do not think this is a good idea:
>>
>> - I am not involved in the development of asymptote, so this solution
>>   would put maintenance of ob-asymptote.el beyond my reach.
>
> AFAIK, it is developed publicly. Anyone can open a pull request or
> post on their forum.

It might be possible, but certainly not as straightforward as working
with Org.

> The advantage of maintaining ob-asymptote.el in the main asymptote
> repo is that people who are intimately familiar with the asymptote
> features can directly contribute and enhance the Org
> integration. Moreover, distributing together with the asymptote means
> no headache with back-compatibility issues.
>
> Maintaining on Org side will have an advantage of using the latest
> additions to Org babel features.
>
> I feel like it is more important to make use of the asymptote features
> if its devs are going to be interested. Of course, IMHO.

I have a very bad feeling about tying ob-asymptote.el with Asymptote,
and I am trying to put my finger on this feeling. I think the problem is
this one.

ob-asymptote.el is coupled very loosely with Asymptote. Basically the
only thing ob-asymptote.el requires from Asymptote is the ability to
call the executable with some established parameters.

Then again, ob-asymptote.el is coupled much more tightly with Org. It
uses many more properties of Org (Babel) than of the Asymptote
program.

As a result, changes in Org are much more likely to affect
ob-asymptote.el than changes in Asymptote. I think basic software
development rules of thumb suggest that ob-asymptote.el should then be
bundled with Org.

All the best,

Jarmo



  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-26 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-20 14:55 The fate of ob-asymptote.el Jarmo Hurri
2022-07-20 15:18 ` Tory S. Anderson
2022-07-20 19:43 ` Nick Dokos
2022-07-21  5:17   ` Jarmo Hurri
2022-07-21 11:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-21 13:21   ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-22  0:27     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-22  7:12       ` Jarmo Hurri
2022-07-26  1:46         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-26 10:23           ` Jarmo Hurri [this message]
2022-07-27  3:24             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-27  7:31               ` Jarmo Hurri
2022-07-28 14:29                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-30  9:23                   ` Jarmo Hurri

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