From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [bug] Smart quotes: confusion of apostrophe with second level quotes
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:41:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0g13w1a.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jcxtbxt.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sat, 23 Mar 2024 11:38:54 +0000")
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> Juan Manuel Macías <maciaschain@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
>> #+OPTIONS: ':t
>> #+language:es
>>
>> "my friends' party and the students' papers"
>> ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
>>
>> the above produces in LaTeX:
>>
>> \guillemotleft{}my friends'' party and the students'' papers\guillemotright{}
>> ...
>> Perhaps a possible solution would be to allow the use of a specific,
>> customizable character, other than an apostrophe, for second-level
>> quotes. Or at least add some brief warning in the manual: in certain
>> contexts it is safer to use a explicit Unicode character for the
>> apostrophe.
>
> I think that we can address examples like this simply by not replacing
> unbalanced quotes. There is already some effort in the code towards such
> treatment, but it is not complete.
>
> Can you try the attached patch?
Hi, Ihor,
The patch works fine, and I think it can prevent a lot of cases. But
false positives can still appear. Consider (second level quotes open
after the colon):
"two articles: 'my friends' party' and 'the students' papers'"
"A Greek folk song says: 'να 'ρθώ το βράδυ'"
==>
\guillemotleft{}two articles: ``my friends'' party' and ``the students'' papers'\guillemotright{}
\guillemotleft{}A Greek folk song says: 'να ``ρθώ το βράδυ''\guillemotright{}
I think the only solution here would be to introduce a Unicode
apostrophe (’). Or allow an optional, alternative character for
second-level quotes:
"... `my friends' party` ..."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-23 13:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-22 1:04 [bug] Smart quotes: confusion of apostrophe with second level quotes Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-23 11:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-23 13:41 ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2024-03-23 13:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-23 15:42 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-24 9:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
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