From: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
To: Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>
Cc: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>,
"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>,
Takaaki Ishikawa <takaxp@ieee.org>,
"Berry, Charles" <ccberry@ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: function for inserting a block
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:35:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9o815ck.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADn3Z2KP9Xy_CT7Xa166BGSzS1cVtSswS1_MeNCOGMoH-14CRQ@mail.gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:55:59 +0100")
Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> writes:
> I have always come down on the side of NOT breaking backward
> compatibility unless we really HAVE TO in order to make progress. The
> reason for this bias is because most Org users are not reading this
> maling list and just want the system to function and to continue to
> function the way they are used to, while it is hopefully improving. It
> will stop them from upgrading if such breakage happens too often.
>
> So I would support reimplement the expansion (including
> org-try-structure-completion for people who use that in custom code),
> if possible of course on the back of one of the built-in expansion
> systems in Emacs, before pushing this change out in a release. I would
> certainly reimplement this in some way for myself, because using these
> abbreviations is already hardcoded in my spine, I think.
I agree. I support removing redundant code behind the scenes, but I also
think we should preserve backwards compatibility in the user interface.
A fair number of people around here have been using Org Mode for more
than a decade, and, for better or for worse, everything about the user
interface is now hardwired in their brains.
In short, we have a time-saving expansion system that works well for
lots of people. I support re-implementing it on top of another snippet
engine but also leaving it in place until a suitable replacement is
ready.
Matt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-12 4:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-03 0:25 function for inserting a block Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-03 2:21 ` Adam Porter
2017-09-03 3:06 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-03 3:34 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-03 8:10 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-03 8:19 ` Adam Porter
2017-09-03 8:23 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-03 15:56 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-03 18:31 ` Josiah Schwab
2017-09-03 19:28 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-03 20:26 ` Josiah Schwab
2017-09-03 20:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-08 18:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-10 12:44 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-10 18:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-29 20:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-30 20:26 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-05 14:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-07 20:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-14 10:52 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-16 19:46 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-16 19:59 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-17 7:46 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-17 16:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-17 21:33 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-17 21:43 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-17 22:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-18 6:45 ` Carsten Dominik
2017-10-18 14:58 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-19 15:47 ` Carsten Dominik
2017-10-20 18:04 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-20 18:39 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-10-20 19:02 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-10-20 21:15 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-20 21:13 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-20 21:43 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-10-21 11:30 ` Xebar Saram
2017-10-21 11:59 ` Marco Wahl
2017-10-21 13:32 ` Xebar Saram
2017-10-21 15:56 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-23 10:52 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-10-23 14:00 ` Carsten Dominik
2017-10-23 14:46 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-10-23 15:11 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-23 16:55 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-24 0:18 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-24 0:20 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-24 12:10 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-28 22:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-30 11:05 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-30 15:08 ` Eric S Fraga
2017-10-30 16:22 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-30 17:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-05 9:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-05 14:24 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-11-05 14:37 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-11-06 13:48 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-06 16:23 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-11-05 21:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-12-10 9:36 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2017-10-22 9:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-22 17:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-08 11:20 ` Bastien
2017-11-08 11:44 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-08 12:14 ` Bastien
2017-11-08 12:25 ` Restore old easy template feature (Re: function for inserting a block) Kaushal Modi
2017-11-08 12:43 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-11-08 14:08 ` Bastien Guerry
2017-12-18 22:07 ` Matt Price
2017-12-19 1:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-12-19 10:04 ` Rasmus
2017-12-19 17:49 ` Matt Price
2017-11-08 13:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-08 13:34 ` function for inserting a block Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-08 14:34 ` Bastien Guerry
2017-11-08 16:01 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-08 16:33 ` William Denton
2017-11-08 14:07 ` Rasmus
2017-11-08 17:09 ` Berry, Charles
2017-11-08 17:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-08 18:24 ` Thomas S. Dye
2017-11-08 18:51 ` Takaaki Ishikawa
2017-11-08 20:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-08 22:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-09 4:31 ` Thomas S. Dye
2017-11-09 7:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2017-11-12 4:35 ` Matt Lundin [this message]
2017-11-12 6:08 ` numbchild
2017-11-09 14:46 ` Rasmus
2017-11-09 16:11 ` Rasmus
2017-11-09 16:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-10 9:31 ` Rasmus
2017-11-10 17:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-11 16:51 ` Thomas S. Dye
2017-11-14 21:36 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-15 13:13 ` numbchild
2017-11-15 16:24 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-17 16:19 ` numbchild
2017-11-17 19:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-18 0:09 ` numbchild
2017-11-20 13:40 ` Rasmus
2017-11-20 16:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-11 4:13 ` stardiviner
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2017-11-10 4:19 ` James Harkins
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