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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666103409; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=nT4LdPY4RoQKnNk+RcPKbjGvyLKOJbm31aVgBmvV/H8=; b=eC7DMIBUCRoqpDDsoLcgjtKYXyP4a3bpdzFh1kNflCy5i0Hgq8r4iPFnEO5oE7l/CbERbb PvaCfNpCFQPfmYpycGHasgWFiwAjAh9p1D3bMAwOI+VlNwZRL0XAY7FWDpMrdvXo2u9WTb U0Ekbn2U5wle1b323nD6/7t/X7qJAkMEuagcYPCUXAixpZ5jEJJazA+KdEI1rw1FfuXKgO jNBIn770sWf6GVntx5thAlQ3xP2KGVbCsJYUnBFN6M/N5Kqt2HkxkgXP9E+bCenJL/2XFw WNIYfjBFR6DbGSBXqaRwKfkV8LXyBJB+U663ugsVZ9P6v6fdiKIiXvcC+3VtaA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666103409; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Gkck/uLrPXraZ3n03EpK0XV/UY7YYem2g1BUCWxSjaCYwuvYIeLcjgMupvM5SUnwVS2mMZ PIsu54/OoMesQvmaKMxTCczDfIS6bVTHpkVdvb2ZTj9fMmjzxG9NwWVhpEBzgS5LHXJc58 MHDsu/W9mIvGsUbTGbcMI+SfQKP7UA7GGdDqQ+sikqSLE+cAotB+JuXiPkmZEi6tdvsJ+p Uy6SEGwW/Rf/oFhEAsUoaxBdQhN/gXqBS8BvHyb9d1bMdP+t0Q92FihpdpxX8+eADLa28g 4vPL11C6BiuQZLfWjB0i6wct7xD+0JBl+Et0fu+eVlMziXzvcPUHKjVZcKT91A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=ZvM61rQD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.92 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=ZvM61rQD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5BD7337E3C X-Spam-Score: -3.92 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ozFpX7p29T/c Ihor Radchenko writes: >> Assuming that there is currently no alternative to the non-selective >> solution, and that, as you say, the presence of brackets may be more >> common than I initially expected, if I had to choose between \empty and >> [0pt], I would say that [0pt] is the safest, as it is an expected >> argument to \\ and equals the default space. I can't think of any >> unexpected results from this, but of course, it also depends on there >> being no package redefining \\ with another argument structure on its >> own. I think it would be a bad idea for a package developer, but LaTeX >> (and the LaTeX packages) is horribly unpredictable. > > It is easy to change \\\empty constant to \\[0pt] if necessary. I have > no objection either way. Though I do not feel like we are in rush. I'd > like to hear from ox-latex maintainer. Today I have tried with the latest version of tabularray (2022C, the one I tried yesterday was 2022A, included in TeX Live 2022), and the bad results persist. Also, it now returns a compile error when an \empty precedes a \hline. I suspect this package does a pretty drastic redefinition of \\. The [0pt] option still works fine here, though.