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Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:08:12 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Cc: Leo Butler , Org Mode List Subject: Re: [BUG] Re: The orgframe construct in the Beamer exporter as a default needs a rethink In-Reply-To: References: <87ttlo6cy0.fsf@localhost> <87y1ayz1zj.fsf@localhost> <87bk7jeik8.fsf@localhost> <87plvzqjhv.fsf@t14.reltub.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 13:12:25 +0000 Message-ID: <87o7biwa12.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.53 X-Spam-Score: -8.53 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1C66F35EA5 X-TUID: doqVKfXSnhF9 Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > I really don't have anything to object to the original patch. I support the > need to circumvent the "\begin-or-end{frame} inside frame" problem and > using orgframe is a clean way of doing so. > My only concern is the _default_ value for `org-beamer-frame-environment'. > If we set it to "frame", we only need to customise it in the file local > variables in files where it needs to be changed and we catch all flies in a > stroke: > > Situation 1: presentation has no "\begin-or-end{frame} inside frame" -> no > extra stuff in file local variables AND newenvironment is not generated AND > frames are between \begin{frame} and \end{frame} > Situation 2: presentation needs to circumvent "\begin-or-end{frame} inside > frame" -> set local variable in file AND newenvironment is generated AND > frame is changed where it is strictly necessary, I do not like that users would need to do manual action in situation 2. For situation 1, Leo's patch will ensure that all the frames are between \begin{frame}..\end{frame}, but newenvironment is still generated. Leo, may you improve the patch to avoid defining `org-beamer-frame-environment' when it is not used in all the frames? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at