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Thanks for chiming in Stefan, I=E2=80=99m coming around to the parts of the= view you and Adam seem to share. I=E2=80=99m now thinking that with the font, font size,= and viewport settings, that it would make sense for Worg to just use the Browser default. I don=E2=80=99t think a completely spartan page is entirely sensible though= . IMO it=E2=80=99s probably worth doing more to create visual links to the rest of the Org sit= e =E2=80=94 I think there=E2=80=99s value in maintaining broad consistent stylistic cho= ices. It gives a sense of cohesion to the site, and as much as I=E2=80=99m loath to = say it, helps with =E2=80=9Cbrand identity=E2=80=9D. I think we should be able to impleme= nt some tweaks along these lines that don=E2=80=99t just steamroll user preferences, where they = are set. > The web should be more seen as a documentation system, not an > installation of art. Style should certainly not impede the accessibility of the pages, however e= ven a dry technical document has stylistic choices, and I don=E2=80=99t think we = should shy away from that. That=E2=80=99s my 2c. Anyway, back to the specific changes proposed by Adam= , my current thoughts are: =E2=80=A2 Yes to the font, font-size, margin, and padding changes =E2=80=A2 Still a big fan of the 60em font width. I do think 60rem may be a= tad more sensible, but it probably makes no difference =E2=80=A2 Change the headings to Org dark green coloured instead of default= /black =E2=80=A2 In a similar vein, maybe the link styling from could also be copied over? All the best, Timothy --=-=-=--