From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id GBOOAJD6cmIvTAEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 05 May 2022 00:13:36 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id OM5nAJD6cmLKwgAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 05 May 2022 00:13:36 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F37FA855 for ; Thu, 5 May 2022 00:13:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37066 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nmNFW-0008Ok-53 for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 04 May 2022 18:13:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44424) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nmNF6-0008OZ-Ig for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2022 18:13:08 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:49110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nmNF5-0001hq-53 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2022 18:13:08 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nmNF2-0006GD-KU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2022 00:13:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: TRS-80 Subject: Re: [tip] Org speed commands improved Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 18:12:54 -0400 Message-ID: <87mtfx2bh5.fsf@isnotmyreal.name> References: <87pml4lzb4.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgk7upgw.fsf@localhost> <87wnfbovf4.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QplL5Cd3T01ethN0je0T7fCYXKE= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1651702415; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=sWTgAHP9JSz0MAUTbpLERwIwt/raL+BR0e9D0ZDaxms=; b=IcAXk0TTWendtT1/rZQszuEZc8qvgAgwjLBq5UmLDaD+7zplUnewxpEWqrtt+IIjR1Bum4 Y9TcGc9rNQBF2Z+PvjNl41668X+tbsWJkNvOVohXQg649RROGGg1e9XN6G0R80voDcb93L JTGZQsVkK7WjUFoUvrWYj7hR6/KxpSihn0UpmQ/w+ofdBGcCoUuxOYtNaTQb+bYWwKXcnu ufKYlpAQqMBw0uezgcYjg6mYgC0A6ej9wfVoBXBZc4atNIm1/Ia8C+B1qXj4pA6iwkP8cB u1JUyjRje/P+An5HYinbADTsQiBZmSfSKwvXFP99qMDxSqEK5AGKbIBVsacY8A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1651702415; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FfvxYm3pTBbO5tfMrkCtwyYDFv4TH4enO0Is0TIOoliyvo8muz7E2pcXkB4ZaBsGR19l8q Y/qwfDtdRJM3duVWlxE2wieRIFdqVxvwKL6SBaaVJLuhlmXLw72Yhl1kTU/NThiU02WRdj RSFpgJDKkWW6wyQyEwUiAgyNPcqJEhhxOaDa+t1VpeoqgzTkfzdQ42wjMAxFY/5gCdIyDV Lo3PdkEgUU0qUAm8saiAFt+P6A/97bxpzp5gvsIsFd8bIwrHY3V7oLhC/TNvOGcuBOXZMo llUxEzl/FRNJvLUgpYUCnRAOL1HgfFxyzsY+r6prqzfSVLgH5osEMu/F66SImA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.29 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6F37FA855 X-Spam-Score: -2.29 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: MBEwMmFMyELG Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi Ihor, > > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> If you are going this far with speed commands, you might as well switch >> to modal editing. What you are describing is basically a modal command >> map with ability to switch to insert map. > > I'm not a fan of modal editing, rather the opposite. But in this > particular case I have found that I spend very little time editing the > raw content of the headers, once I set it. I spend more time editing the > 'meta-content': TODO states, properties, tags, refile, attached folders, > etc. And that with the speed commands can be achieved in a very agile > way, so that a small dose of controlled modal editing and reduced only > to the header, maybe it's worth it :-) If the speed commands were also > activated in the content of the sections, here we would have a real > modal editing, and that (in my case) would not be comfortable. I agree with your assessment! In fact, I think I will give your functions a try. Thanks for sharing them! Cheers, TRS-80