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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666912900; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=DPqEjWyTi+RF5WPkl7WsAHiqfJbUXcSsqfGbHgFz9Aw=; b=LeolrCQg4YgRwjP2A9z9lOSeeesFS26dxrO5pI/rVkR9+/E8j50gKvjCIWTF3q6ekUp1sK 9scuwFJAYziLSe3ZD3P7f7vjuic7sQCzq1pTe+mWIsXo8CDxD5sMgAIeYT2XmqLFve2B/R 5ImS2sb8KlzCEZXQMnVKkCXwwiIFfTl7fxUkP7f/JH01apz82BgJvoNY/sY3Dlb1xy8ENT toEDsFtrOuqEVe36u+JOh/rGTFkWIaPyGDliDowuY9RlS/dHm/us2wHgxlyiscEI4FAbE2 0LCit2LDibYaVSjGqLO6rOJTH3BsptWs4nVS31EroAZRfMaUTdPB2zHfXwlAyQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666912900; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Yq9tMFqpsgZ63dLiKTYls3sW8wKQjYW4VKpdASLWdILvl8KnYP73wbHa97sViBgKfUbrRo q5WmyHDDaapdM56bexNoNtP//D/tSAja37Vu8Q+bZEbZGx2ybgY/Pothdm8kx68LGPG82M XgkeWd5G8gqt9uAqSW9iJpmxhAi4mIRyyj1sfx1Qjtl0txZkDf67ATt8uSYrqH7dYvVi4C QJAlmMDFk4IvQUGDdhd/PYuGUrAG4BsXcWCFt7/U5KmLmZYKLmnjyABh0kosZruB6a4M/C flWDeQSTvoMZA7Z4WkNECskN03u7NtweSPREy1WM5z9GNpPcBV3XMVF9rvFySA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=s29768273 header.b=ulQA5PiO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.61 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=s29768273 header.b=ulQA5PiO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 83E981265B X-Spam-Score: -4.61 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 5fm0Nz6M8wd8 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jean Louis writes: > * Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [2022-10-28 01:11]: >>=20 >> Max Nikulin writes: >>=20 >> > How are you going to distinguish your personal files and arbitrary >> > files from non-trusted sources? By signing your files and maintaining >> > list of trusted certificates? >>=20 >> One idea that could work well is to add an explicit allow-list >> trusted-sources-to-allow-unsafe-modes with entries of domain and >> path-prefix where people can add trusted sources. > > That implies that for every content type you are supposed to do the > same. No, you misunderstood the proposal. > And what makes you want to limit people how they want to run their Org > files? The wish to limit the fallout when=C2=B9 this gets weaponized by criminals. If you explicitly allow-list trusted sources, bad actors have to take over your trusted server to attack you. That=E2=80=99s much less likely tha= n bad actors taking over some random long-unmainted server of a link you stumbled upon. =C2=B9: when, not if. 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