From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements? Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:28:35 -0500 Message-ID: <87k47ag5n0.fsf@norang.ca> References: <87hb2ggoju.fsf@norang.ca> <87wrbbfgf4.fsf@norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNknM-0001yX-RH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:28:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNknL-00059Z-9O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:28:52 -0500 Received: from mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.66]:15830 helo=mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNknL-00057Q-5o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:28:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Tommy Kelly's message of "Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:06:47 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Tommy Kelly Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Tommy Kelly writes: >> ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... > > Ermm, weekly :-) > >> It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the >> tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file >> just for your chronological report. > > Absolutely. But as I've been thinking about this, I'm realizing that > in fact a key input requirement (as opposed to my two output > requirements -- chronology plus clock tables) is ease of entry. As I > begin some new chunk of work, I don't want to have to hunt around for > the most appropriate heading to clock into and begin writing notes > under. As a result, what's happening is two things. First, I'm just > falling back on your single "Organization" catch-all task; second, I'm > not writing *any* notes. > > With a chronological journal, there's no decision to be made. You just > start logging at the end (or start) of the journal. But maybe > something in the org-capture area is what I need. I've tried it before > and didn't get very far, but I'll have another look. I tend to use capture mode to refile.org (all level 1 tasks) and then refile them later to the appropriate place. I clock time on the task when I create it and sometimes I end the capture task with C-c C-c (which stops the clock) and immediately switch back to it with F9-SPC in my setup. Sometime later I'll refile this item to the right place in the tree. I don't do that now - when I'm supposed to be working on it but later when I have 2 minutes to spare :) When I start something new it's C-M-r (or C-c r or whatever your capture binding is) t or n (for Todo or Note) then start entering data in the capture buffer that is being clocked. C-c C-c when done and possible switch back to it immediately with F9-SPC. I never hunt around for where a task should live when I capture it - I used to do that with multiple capture task targets and it was just too slow. Regards, Bernt