From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: GSoC 2012 -- Elisp backend for Ragel Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:10:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87k425ofuq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wr674aii.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47171) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCg61-00052M-E0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:46:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCg5y-0007mw-1h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:46:36 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171]:48013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCg5x-0007kg-Pr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:46:33 -0400 Received: by wibhj13 with SMTP id hj13so4460996wib.12 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:46:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Aur=E9lien?= Aptel"'s message of "Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:49:58 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien?= Aptel Cc: Rustom Mody , ragel-users@complang.org, emacs-orgmode Hi Aurélien, Aurélien Aptel writes: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Bastien wrote: >>> Is it still hand written? If so, I think it's ultimately a bad idea >>> and it should be rewritten using ragel. >> >> I guess that's because you're not fluent in english, but this sounds >> a bit "peremptory".  We are not only interested in code, we are also > > Sorry I've made a bad impression or if my remarks feels a bit > passive-agressive. It's harder (and longer) for me to write in > english, yes :p No problem! >> interested in learning from each others.  That's what make this list >> a nice place to live in.  If you have code or explanations you want >> to share, please do! > > From my classes, I thought it was widely accepted that sufficiently > complex parsers should now be written by a tool like ragel. But again > I'm not experienced, I never had to parse a complex language. Writing an Org parser with Ragel looks like an interesting project in itself, theoretically speaking -- and you will find great minds around that will follow and support your progress on this. But for a GSoC project, we have to think in very practical terms ("how will this improve the current code-base?) Achim's remarks are good ones. And remember potential mentors are volunteers, the same ones that (try to) maintain Org everyday. Anyway, I'm glad to learn about Ragel. But as I said, my priority goes to anything that can help Nicolas parser (testing, learning, adding new backends, etc.) Thanks, -- Bastien