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References: <878s4x3bwh.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2cwooh5.fsf@gmail.com> <87fsz4gtjs.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6pcfdh2.fsf@bzg.fr> <871rao7zcq.fsf@gmail.com> <87fsz4ue9e.fsf@bzg.fr> Date: Mon, 03 May 2021 16:57:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87fsz4ue9e.fsf@bzg.fr> (Bastien's message of "Mon, 03 May 2021 15:40:29 +0200") Message-ID: <87k0ofkgqj.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::332; envelope-from=kevin.legouguec@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x332.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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One last snag that I can see: when inserting properties or >> clocking in, the :LOGBOOK:, :PROPERTIES: and :END: lines are indented, >> but the /first/ :property: or CLOCK: line remains at column 0. > > Er. Can you try this (hopefully last) patch and report any problem? > > Thanks for your patience in testing this! Well, try as I might, I couldn't get this one to misindent =F0=9F=98=83 And= a good thing too, I was about to run out of synonyms for wrinkles/nits/snags and the like =F0=9F=98=89 If anyone is wondering what these exchanges are all about: with Bastien's latest patch[1], setting org-adapt-indentation to 'headline-data results in the following behaviour, *whether electric-indent-mode is enabled or not*: - "* heading RET" starts an unindented line (point goes to column 0). - The drawers inserted by org-set-property and org-clock-in are indented. So, to bring the discussion back to the poll: - If nil or 'headline-data becomes the default value, RET will no longer indent regular text after a headline (even with electric-indent-mode). - The difference will be whether :DRAWERS: are indented or not. As far as I am concerned, my preference has become: (1) 'headline-data (indented drawers) (2) nil (nothing indented) (3) t (the status quo) although I suppose an argument could be made that 'headline-data might be a bit "young" and as such, should not be used as default value=E2=80=A6 Let's see what the poll yields =F0=9F=99=82 [1] Uncommited, to apply on branch maint: https://orgmode.org/list/87fsz4ue9e.fsf@bzg.fr/2-fix-indent.patch