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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Amy Grinn <grinn.amy@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: noweb-start and noweb-end header args
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2024 13:58:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jzmexhwu.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s31ttljufhd.fsf@gmail.com>

Amy Grinn <grinn.amy@gmail.com> writes:

> To expand on this, some major modes can fundamentally conflict with the
> default noweb syntax.  Here is a valid shell script *and* a valid noweb
> reference to a block named EOF:
>
> cat <<EOF>> file.txt
> Hello
> EOF
>
> I hope this helps explain why the wrap-start and wrap-end options were
> necessary to include more than a decade ago.  In terms of actually using
> them, it's a bit cumbersome, especially in Org mode buffers that use
> multiple languages.

This makes sense.
I agree that setting noweb reference syntax per-language is useful in
some cases.

> The second diff I sent (under the termux handle, accidentally) is my
> preferred solution (:noweb yes <<< >>>).  This would avoid the need for
> new header arguments to be introduced while maintaining backwards
> compatibility.  It also feels natural to specify the two options
> together: I can't think of a good reason to only need to specify the
> wrap-end option.

:noweb yes <<< >>> is actually backwards-incompatible. Consider
third-party code that makes assumptions about possible values of :noweb
header argument. If third-party code does a check like
(equal noweb-value "yes"), the new syntax can break such code.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-07 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-05 19:22 noweb-start and noweb-end header args Amy Grinn
2024-03-05 22:41 ` termux
2024-03-06 11:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-06 11:40   ` Amy Grinn
2024-03-06 11:47     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-06 12:05       ` Amy Grinn
2024-03-06 13:33         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-06 16:04           ` Amy Grinn
2024-03-07 13:50             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-06 23:07     ` Amy Grinn
2024-03-07 13:58       ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-03-07 14:33         ` Amy Grinn
2024-03-07 14:49           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-07 14:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-07 15:06   ` Amy Grinn
2024-04-08 14:04   ` [FR] :noweb-wrap header arg Amy Grinn
2024-04-11 14:03     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-11 18:46       ` Amy Grinn
2024-04-13 13:17         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-11 16:01       ` Amy Grinn
2024-05-12 10:48         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-22 23:17           ` Amy Grinn
2024-05-23 11:27             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01  9:56               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-08 10:20               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-10 15:28                 ` Suhail Singh

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