From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: Org-mode release 7.9 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:14:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87ipc1d0qb.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <87sjbcb89x.fsf@altern.org> <87sjb9iqgp.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <878vcylxi7.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <873935mvd9.fsf@altern.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40039) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6mmx-0000K0-4j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:14:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6mmv-0002sL-4v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:14:51 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38359) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6mmu-0002s4-UH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:14:49 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T6mmv-0000dU-F0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:14:49 +0200 Received: from pd9eb5f18.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.95.24]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:14:49 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb5f18.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:14:49 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Bastien writes: >> I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the >> error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a >> mixed installation. > > How the use of stuff in contrib/ can prevent the ELPA package from > loading correctly? I'm interested in having more details, if you or > Robert can give some -- I had a similar problem, as you know, and > didn't find the time to digg further so far. The exact recipe for reproduction I don't know because even though I use stuff from contrib/ it works for me without any error. I suspect that since I have a fairly recent installation of Org in site-lisp Emacs just gets the autoloads from there if things go wrong and that's just the same stuff it would pick up from ELPA. I wont have time for a week or so to remove this installation and see what happens… I seem to remember there was some talk on Emacs devel that the package manager loaded the activation code too late in saome cases, but I can't find it right now. You might ask Tom Tromey. Emacs needs to grow a way to de-activate the built-in package when it gets a new one via ELPA, but that hasn't been implemented yet. Robert said he removed the contrib stuff and things start to work for him — apparently he's away for a few days so we may not hear from him until he's back. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra