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In-Reply-To: <87a66m7oym.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Mon, 26 Sep 2022 12:13:21 +0800") Organization: GNU References: <871qs6ygmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkrasnla.fsf@localhost> <871qs6li9l.fsf@gnu.org> <874jx2wqgi.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> <87czbq7ach.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsgmqu1h.fsf@localhost> <87r105xicb.fsf@localhost> <87a66ra45s.fsf@localhost> <87mtar2yph.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtaq95sr.fsf@localhost> <87bkr61tmw.fsf@gnu.org> <877d1u4d13.fsf@localhost> <87bkr3vhpn.fsf@bzg.fr> <87a66m7oym.fsf@localhost> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 07:57:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87illapti1.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664172051; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=7nTsqFU2dJGFzIjgcTwIrSgzkkxRjtIN1nZ3YWqW1dE=; b=NX2ePguYTGQi7CyEOzeCO+XgFsvCqD+o0W2BE/km6zq88WRGb2DSq+gTtQ1wbY6q4KwJFz JQBsRf+U78Nb117ILpj79aZb6nhDvaoXCApl7tRotOoQVAhKUhOa/Enjl5iJQIlD6WMhPg av4xeGeDhTc7Q4g7AKQ/SXypvWZR8ch5u/dn9S/QXEYNUDswfOrAWR9p9wF2sq9m49COgv Wgo+Y9o+GJGmcN1gc9BFaklIi/QLF8SPy9TaCM8HkR1o9wa6e+pIJxphW5eqqueQmQbuU0 1fUtbP2QnGxc6U2QuQuvyecHPPB+hP0GmB/0pJucD1hD6uiEzr1pvIeBfooOVg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664172051; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pIKXdgfk9mD0v0YCfUP2dveEoZPm1lsfpraE45sBzKAtkJL7xg3zl7pCoBeOYIYcbQ7F93 FqQ1+JfM1/TbhpT36c3D2TEhX0+neg9HaGQyTCG4ckpVrSY2lEmkv34w1Sxt16rub6PUk9 rY1x7OBo4ZahsYmWA4XKT1dkUrs0pH4lY1wAjV+XEUKvzUis4ADDkBGB8Up1BniGq4dzYF +Uqgtsu72dza/4qNXCPuiZvb3qrz+U68w42GpZ2gbYvVl62b8wIhtgSqZje2AEnKeDcn6g 7DsQxSrlKmzE/XQqk8VYC2EfALSjMjIKQBWzvTKzl+MKvIn0nuoquy516Savyw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=GK3poaiJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.64 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=GK3poaiJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 105EDEB02 X-Spam-Score: -6.64 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: qIkoX+GsLFNX Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > Maybe we can nicely ask moderators/active users of reddit/SO to redirect > people to Org ML when appropriate? Similar to our current effort with > contributor stewards. That's a very good idea! If these contributor stewards agree, we can even advertise their role on https://orgmode.org/worg/org-maintenance.html > I think you are missing one important category of contributors -- > maintainers of third-party packages. I've got involved into several > Org-related discussions on Github because I got @mentioned in some > threads. My impression is that a number of package maintainers on Github > actively cross-link issues between repos and try to resolve problems > together. However, they rarely reach out to Org ML. True that. > Notably, I managed to communicate on GitHub simply using email. I too. > May we set a single account on GitHub and link it to Org ML so that > people can @mention Org team on GitHub, and we automatically get the > email directly to Org ML? I'm against it: it will make it easier for Org ecosystem maintainers on GitHub to send notifications to the Org ML without joining it while probably forcing Org maintainers on the ML to follow-up discussions on GitHub. That's not a positive outcome. What I suggest instead to do is to document GitHub accounts of Org core maintainers on worg/org-maintenance.org for those who have one. This way maintainers of Org libraries on GitHub will know they can @ these accounts in their issues. And it will stay the responsability of Org core maintainers to decide how to deal with these issues. For some of them, it will just lead to a reply on the issue (as when Org maintainers contribute to non-official Org spaces, like the Doom or spacemacs discord servers); for issues that are of importance for Org core development, we should suggest them to send an email to the list. WDYT? -- Bastien