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In-Reply-To: References: <87v8d47jqh.fsf@bzg.fr> <87sf88d5r6.fsf@localhost> <87jztkve0g.fsf@bzg.fr> <874jko3ad6.fsf@localhost> <87a5ugk46o.fsf@bzg.fr> <87msygk3zh.fsf@localhost> <87fs48k2wl.fsf@localhost> <871qfsk164.fsf@localhost> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:18:03 +0000 Message-ID: <87il93h450.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.18 X-Spam-Score: -6.18 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B28844C26A X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-TUID: dJW35FiYxOm9 Russell Adams writes: >> Is there any hurry to delete things? If we still keep a new syntax open >> for discussion, I see no reason to remove anything. > > Certainly no hurry. Just expressing my opinion. You know the code much > better than I, I'm just trying to defend maintainer time from extra > work. I am personally interested to maintain inlinetasks. > Maybe start a new email thread for a RFC regarding a potential > replacement inline task syntax that would be cleaner for the code, > parser, and easier to maintain? Yup. We are too far away from the subject now. I will start a new thread in a reply to Bastien. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at