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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.65 X-Spam-Score: -9.65 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B94D9397D5 X-TUID: BnifoHZF/zRI On Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 09:33, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> "Fraga, Eric" writes: >> >>> I'll chime in regarding inlinetasks: I used to use these *a lot* >>> but I >>> found that drawers do what I needed in almost all cases very >>> effectively (for my use cases). > > My personal use case is when using Org for authoring long texts. > I often leave inline tasks around the specific paragraph I need to > revise in future: For completeness, I will add that I do the same but using drawers at the point where I want to note a task, where the drawer is ~:todo:~. I then have some special formatting for LaTeX export that converts such drawers into footnotes with a note in the margin. --=20 : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.6.6-412-g2f7b35 in Emacs 30.0.50=