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* [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
@ 2014-02-07 10:32 Bastien
  2014-02-07 11:34 ` Sebastien Vauban
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From: Bastien @ 2014-02-07 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

The purpose is to be polite with minor modes and to not use
C-c [:punct:] keybindings, as recommended in the Elisp manual.

This is related to the issues reported here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2014-01/msg00866.html
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/82010

Here is a table to summarise the proposal:

| Key   | Command                           | Proposal         | Status |
|-------+-----------------------------------+------------------+--------|
| C-c # | Checkboxes                        | C-c x            | Free   |
| C-c ~ | Cooperation                       | C-c C-~          | Free   |
| C-c , | Priorities                        | C-c C-,          | Free   |
| C-c ? | Editing and debugging formulas    | C-c C-?          | Free   |
| C-c ! | Creating timestamps               | C-c C-!          | Free   |
| C-c . | Creating timestamps               | C-c C-.          | Free   |
| C-c ` | Built-in table editor             | C-c C-`          | Free   |
|-------+-----------------------------------+------------------+--------|
| C-c ' | Editing and debugging formulas    | C-c " or C-c C-' | Free   |
| C-c ^ | Structure editing, plain lists... | C-c C-^          | Taken  |
| C-c @ | Structure editing                 | C-c <            | Taken  |

The order is from the less problematic ones to the more problematic ones.

A few comments on the last three:

- " is not a punctuation character, I find C-c " instead of C-c ' good.

- C-c C-^ is taken by org-up-element.  I'm in favor of using C-c C-u
  (currently bound to `outline-up-heading') for `org-up-element'.
  Nicolas suggested C-M-u but I find it convenient to have it when
  editing Elisp code within Org buffers.

- C-c < is bound to `org-date-from-calendar', which inserts the
  current date (or the date from the calendar buffer) at point as
  an active timestamp.

  C-c > is bound to `org-goto-calendar' and goes to the calendar,
  going to the date at point if any.  This is just a slightly more
  contextual M-x calendar RET.

  So the whole suggestion here is:
  
  - in Org-mode, remap calendar to org-goto-calendar and unbind it
    from C-c >

  - use C-c > for `org-date-from-calendar'

  - use C-c < for selecting the whole subtree, which is consistent
    with the use of `<' as a speedy command for doing the same.

Let me know how you feel about such move in general and each rebinding
in particular.  We are not forced to solve them all at once.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
@ 2014-02-09 20:01 Tim O'Callaghan
  2014-02-09 22:48 ` Nick Dokos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 48+ messages in thread
From: Tim O'Callaghan @ 2014-02-09 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode

>
> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>
>> For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, ", `, !, ?, and
>> ~.
>
> Oh, do you really need the Alt-Gr key for `?' and `!' ?
>
> Does that mean you don't use `C-c !' or that you rarely use it?
>
> Of course, this may have nothing to do with the keybinding itself,
> but I'm curious.
>

If i can throw in my 2-cents, I have been using Alt-O or(Meta-O if you
prefer) for a Ctrl-C, Ctrl-C substitute in org-mode for years. Now i
use a combination of an activation key (Alt-O or f4) and a kind of
fast-key mnemonic map. I need mnemonics because there is just too much
in org-mode, and i prefer to just type an extra key rather than have
to bend to hit a semi-random modifier + cryptic keymap entry.

so:
Alt+o,a => agenda,
Alt+o,0 => capture -> inbox
Alt+o,1 => agenda file 1
....
Alt+o, A,h => agenda - home tag
Alt+o,T,c => org table convert region
Alt+o,T,C,b => org table convert buffer.
....

Basically, two keys to most used personal functions. To save the
pinkies, alt and shift are the only modifiers. alt for the activator,
and shift to dig into a personalised sub-menu.  I tried binding to
FNkeys, but i could not memorise them. the "ah" = at home comes
naturally to me.

I for one will follow this idea with interest.

Tim.

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2014-02-07 10:32 [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Bastien
2014-02-07 11:34 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-07 13:30   ` Bastien
2014-02-07 14:55 ` Michael Brand
2014-02-08 18:13   ` Bastien
2014-02-07 15:56 ` Nick Dokos
2014-02-07 16:44   ` Rasmus
2014-02-08 18:13     ` Bastien
2014-02-07 19:06   ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 18:13     ` Bastien
2014-02-08 20:40       ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 20:42         ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 22:34         ` Bastien
2014-02-08 22:58           ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-09  8:01             ` Bastien
2014-02-09 10:26               ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-09  9:21             ` Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Karl Voit
2014-02-09  9:51               ` Assumptions on user's environment Bastien
2014-02-09 10:09                 ` Karl Voit
2014-02-09 12:29                   ` Rasmus
2014-02-09 17:43                     ` Karl Voit
2014-02-09 19:43               ` Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Samuel Wales
2014-02-09 19:51                 ` Assumptions on user's environment Bastien
2014-02-09 20:13                   ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-09 20:27                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-09 21:31                     ` Karl Voit
2014-02-10  8:55                       ` Bastien
2014-02-10  8:55                     ` Bastien
2014-02-10 11:19                       ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-10 19:29                         ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-12 17:09                           ` Karl Voit
2014-02-08 18:13   ` [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Bastien
2014-02-10  0:20 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-02-10  8:40   ` Bastien
2014-02-10 17:27     ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-10 23:22       ` terminal emulators (was: Re: Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Gregor Zattler
2014-02-11 13:58         ` terminal emulators Brett Viren
2014-02-11 18:35         ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-11 20:33           ` Gregor Zattler
2014-02-12 20:18             ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-10 18:07 ` [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Greg Troxel
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2014-02-09 20:01 Tim O'Callaghan
2014-02-09 22:48 ` Nick Dokos
2014-02-10  8:43   ` Bastien
2014-02-10  9:28     ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-10 10:21       ` Bastien
2014-02-10 11:18         ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-11 20:58           ` Bastien

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