jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Xebar Saram]

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Hi all

i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to
manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO list...when
(f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my
references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:

1. easy add references

2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good solution)

3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)

4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references in
word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)

anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to go?

thx!

z

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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Vaidheeswaran C]

On Saturday 30 May 2015 01:50 PM, Xebar Saram wrote:

> 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references in
> word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)

You may have to move to new citation syntax on my private repo.

See http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode/org-cv.git

The example org and odt files are available in this post:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2015-03/msg00451.html
The documentation is in ox-jabref.el

If you report issues, I will address them promptly.

Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Otto Pichlhöfer]

Xebar Saram <zeltakc <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references in 
word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)

You might want to finish up the citations after the paper is exported. 
Have a look at 
http://www.docear.org/software/add-ons/docear4word/overview/

Regards,
Otto

Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Titus von der Malsburg]

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On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
> Hi all
>
> i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to
> manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO list...when
> (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my
> references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:

Author of helm-bibtex here.

> 1. easy add references

Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy and
I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on BibTeX
export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.

However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new
entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.

> 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good solution)

That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.

> 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)

In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags. 

> 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references in
> word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)

helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see
Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
for that.

> anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
> go?

For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex

  Titus


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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[John Kitchin]

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On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
wrote:

>
> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to
> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
> list...when
> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my
> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>
> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>
> > 1. easy add references
>
> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy and
> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on BibTeX
> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>
> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new
> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.


Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs
from a doi or crossref query.


>
> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
> solution)
>
> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>
> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>
> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>
> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references in
> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>
> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see
> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
> for that.
>
> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
> > go?
>
> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>
>   Titus
>
>

-- 
John

-----------------------------------
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Xebar Saram]

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Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate this
further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)

thanks again

PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
could be user customizable in the future?

Z.

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

>
>
> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to
>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
>> list...when
>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my
>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>>
>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>>
>> > 1. easy add references
>>
>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy and
>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on BibTeX
>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>>
>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new
>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
>
>
> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs
> from a doi or crossref query.
>
>
>>
>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
>> solution)
>>
>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>>
>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>>
>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>>
>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references in
>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>>
>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see
>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
>> for that.
>>
>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
>> > go?
>>
>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>>
>>   Titus
>>
>>
>
> --
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>
>

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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[John Kitchin]

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Org-ref also has some customizable formatting. It is pretty basic but
customizable.

On Sunday, May 31, 2015, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate this
> further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)
>
> thanks again
>
> PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
> could be user customizable in the future?
>
> Z.
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu');>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','malsburg@posteo.de');>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>> > Hi all
>>> >
>>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to
>>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
>>> list...when
>>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my
>>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>>>
>>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>>>
>>> > 1. easy add references
>>>
>>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
>>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy and
>>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on BibTeX
>>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
>>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>>>
>>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new
>>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
>>
>>
>> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs
>> from a doi or crossref query.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
>>> solution)
>>>
>>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>>>
>>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>>>
>>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>>>
>>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references
>>> in
>>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>>>
>>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see
>>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
>>> for that.
>>>
>>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
>>> > go?
>>>
>>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>>>
>>>   Titus
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> John
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>
>>
>>
>

-- 
John

-----------------------------------
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Titus von der Malsburg]

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On 2015-05-31 Sun 03:01, Xebar Saram wrote:
> Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate this
> further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)
>
> thanks again
>
> PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
> could be user customizable in the future?

Depends on what you mean by customizable.  If you mean a customization
option to allows you to replace the function for APA formatting with
another function, then yes that would definitely make sense.

  Titus

>
> Z.
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>> > Hi all
>>> >
>>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to
>>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
>>> list...when
>>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my
>>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>>>
>>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>>>
>>> > 1. easy add references
>>>
>>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
>>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy and
>>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on BibTeX
>>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
>>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>>>
>>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new
>>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
>>
>>
>> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs
>> from a doi or crossref query.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
>>> solution)
>>>
>>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>>>
>>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>>>
>>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>>>
>>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references in
>>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>>>
>>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see
>>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
>>> for that.
>>>
>>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
>>> > go?
>>>
>>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>>>
>>>   Titus
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> John
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>
>>
>>


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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Xebar Saram]

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Hi again Titus and list

so the semester is finally nearing the end which means i finally have some
time (and a life :)) to get back to what i partially started a few months
ago.

i have a question regarding Predefined searches. i have a search that works
well for searching papers i authored.
i am thinking of moving towards 2 bib files instead of 1 big one, that is
one for my papers and one for the rest (any disadvantages of using 2 bib
files?).
i want to add in the Predefined search to only draw from my file (mypaper.bib),
even though in the default helm-bibtex sources it will have 2 inputs. is
such a thing possible?

this is how a current search i have looks like

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results none

 ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression:
 (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
   "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
   (interactive)
   (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
         :full-frame t
         :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
         :candidate-number-limit 500))
#+END_SRC

how does one add the specific .bib file filter?

best

Z

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
wrote:

>
> On 2015-05-31 Sun 03:01, Xebar Saram wrote:
> > Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate this
> > further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)
> >
> > thanks again
> >
> > PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
> > could be user customizable in the future?
>
> Depends on what you mean by customizable.  If you mean a customization
> option to allows you to replace the function for APA formatting with
> another function, then yes that would definitely make sense.
>
>   Titus
>
> >
> > Z.
> >
> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
> >>> > Hi all
> >>> >
> >>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work
> to
> >>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
> >>> list...when
> >>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my
> >>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
> >>>
> >>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
> >>>
> >>> > 1. easy add references
> >>>
> >>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
> >>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy
> and
> >>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on BibTeX
> >>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
> >>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
> >>>
> >>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing
> new
> >>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
> >>
> >>
> >> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs
> >> from a doi or crossref query.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
> >>> solution)
> >>>
> >>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
> >>>
> >>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
> >>>
> >>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
> >>>
> >>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected
> references in
> >>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
> >>>
> >>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can
> see
> >>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
> >>> for that.
> >>>
> >>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
> >>> > go?
> >>>
> >>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
> >>>
> >>>   Titus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> John
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------
> >> Professor John Kitchin
> >> Doherty Hall A207F
> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
> >> Carnegie Mellon University
> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> >> 412-268-7803
> >> @johnkitchin
> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[John Kitchin]

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Try (untested)

 (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
   "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
   (interactive)
(let ((helm-bibtex-bibliography "your special bibfile"))
   (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
         :full-frame t
         :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
         :candidate-number-limit 500)))



John

-----------------------------------
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu


On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi again Titus and list
>
> so the semester is finally nearing the end which means i finally have some
> time (and a life :)) to get back to what i partially started a few months
> ago.
>
> i have a question regarding Predefined searches. i have a search that
> works well for searching papers i authored.
> i am thinking of moving towards 2 bib files instead of 1 big one, that is
> one for my papers and one for the rest (any disadvantages of using 2 bib
> files?).
> i want to add in the Predefined search to only draw from my file (mypaper.bib),
> even though in the default helm-bibtex sources it will have 2 inputs. is
> such a thing possible?
>
> this is how a current search i have looks like
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results none
>
>  ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression:
>  (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
>    "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
>    (interactive)
>    (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
>          :full-frame t
>          :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
>          :candidate-number-limit 500))
> #+END_SRC
>
> how does one add the specific .bib file filter?
>
> best
>
> Z
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <
> malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2015-05-31 Sun 03:01, Xebar Saram wrote:
>> > Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate this
>> > further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)
>> >
>> > thanks again
>> >
>> > PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
>> > could be user customizable in the future?
>>
>> Depends on what you mean by customizable.  If you mean a customization
>> option to allows you to replace the function for APA formatting with
>> another function, then yes that would definitely make sense.
>>
>>   Titus
>>
>> >
>> > Z.
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
>> >>> > Hi all
>> >>> >
>> >>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work
>> to
>> >>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
>> >>> list...when
>> >>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage
>> my
>> >>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>> >>>
>> >>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>> >>>
>> >>> > 1. easy add references
>> >>>
>> >>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
>> >>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy
>> and
>> >>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on
>> BibTeX
>> >>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
>> >>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>> >>>
>> >>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing
>> new
>> >>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs
>> >> from a doi or crossref query.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
>> >>> solution)
>> >>>
>> >>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>> >>>
>> >>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>> >>>
>> >>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>> >>>
>> >>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected
>> references in
>> >>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>> >>>
>> >>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can
>> see
>> >>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
>> >>> for that.
>> >>>
>> >>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
>> >>> > go?
>> >>>
>> >>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>> >>>
>> >>>   Titus
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> -----------------------------------
>> >> Professor John Kitchin
>> >> Doherty Hall A207F
>> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> >> Carnegie Mellon University
>> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> >> 412-268-7803
>> >> @johnkitchin
>> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>

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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Xebar Saram]

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Hi John

Thanks for the quick answer. this does seem to work but as a side effect
seems to break the TAB key to select action
the message window shows:

helm-select-nth-action: Nothing is selected
No Actions available [8 times]

thx again

Z

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Try (untested)
>
>  (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
>    "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
>    (interactive)
> (let ((helm-bibtex-bibliography "your special bibfile"))
>    (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
>          :full-frame t
>          :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
>          :candidate-number-limit 500)))
>
>
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi again Titus and list
>>
>> so the semester is finally nearing the end which means i finally have
>> some time (and a life :)) to get back to what i partially started a few
>> months ago.
>>
>> i have a question regarding Predefined searches. i have a search that
>> works well for searching papers i authored.
>> i am thinking of moving towards 2 bib files instead of 1 big one, that is
>> one for my papers and one for the rest (any disadvantages of using 2 bib
>> files?).
>> i want to add in the Predefined search to only draw from my file (mypaper.bib),
>> even though in the default helm-bibtex sources it will have 2 inputs. is
>> such a thing possible?
>>
>> this is how a current search i have looks like
>>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results none
>>
>>  ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression:
>>  (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
>>    "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
>>    (interactive)
>>    (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
>>          :full-frame t
>>          :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
>>          :candidate-number-limit 500))
>> #+END_SRC
>>
>> how does one add the specific .bib file filter?
>>
>> best
>>
>> Z
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <
>> malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-05-31 Sun 03:01, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>> > Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate
>>> this
>>> > further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)
>>> >
>>> > thanks again
>>> >
>>> > PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
>>> > could be user customizable in the future?
>>>
>>> Depends on what you mean by customizable.  If you mean a customization
>>> option to allows you to replace the function for APA formatting with
>>> another function, then yes that would definitely make sense.
>>>
>>>   Titus
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Z.
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de
>>> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>> >>> > Hi all
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia
>>> work to
>>> >>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
>>> >>> list...when
>>> >>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage
>>> my
>>> >>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > 1. easy add references
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
>>> >>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy
>>> and
>>> >>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on
>>> BibTeX
>>> >>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
>>> >>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing
>>> new
>>> >>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download
>>> PDFs
>>> >> from a doi or crossref query.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
>>> >>> solution)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected
>>> references in
>>> >>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can
>>> see
>>> >>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
>>> >>> for that.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
>>> >>> > go?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>>> >>>
>>> >>>   Titus
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> John
>>> >>
>>> >> -----------------------------------
>>> >> Professor John Kitchin
>>> >> Doherty Hall A207F
>>> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
>>> >> Carnegie Mellon University
>>> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>> >> 412-268-7803
>>> >> @johnkitchin
>>> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[John Kitchin]

I cannot reproduce that, and it shouldn't have any effect. Maybe
something else is going on.

>
> Thanks for the quick answer. this does seem to work but as a side effect
> seems to break the TAB key to select action
> the message window shows:
>
> helm-select-nth-action: Nothing is selected
> No Actions available [8 times]
>
> thx again
>
> Z
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Try (untested)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again Titus and list
>>>
>>> so the semester is finally nearing the end which means i finally have
>>> some time (and a life :)) to get back to what i partially started a few
>>> months ago.
>>>
>>> i have a question regarding Predefined searches. i have a search that
>>> works well for searching papers i authored.
>>> i am thinking of moving towards 2 bib files instead of 1 big one, that is
>>> one for my papers and one for the rest (any disadvantages of using 2 bib
>>> files?).
>>> i want to add in the Predefined search to only draw from my file (mypaper.bib),
>>> even though in the default helm-bibtex sources it will have 2 inputs. is
>>> such a thing possible?
>>>
>>> this is how a current search i have looks like
>>>
>>> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results none
>>>
>>>  ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression:
>>>  (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
>>>    "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
>>>    (interactive)
>>>    (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
>>>          :full-frame t
>>>          :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
>>>          :candidate-number-limit 500))
>>> #+END_SRC
>>>
>>> how does one add the specific .bib file filter?
>>>
>>> best
>>>
>>> Z
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <
>>> malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-05-31 Sun 03:01, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>>> > Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate
>>>> this
>>>> > further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)
>>>> >
>>>> > thanks again
>>>> >
>>>> > PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
>>>> > could be user customizable in the future?
>>>>
>>>> Depends on what you mean by customizable.  If you mean a customization
>>>> option to allows you to replace the function for APA formatting with
>>>> another function, then yes that would definitely make sense.
>>>>
>>>>   Titus
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Z.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de
>>>> >
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>>> >>> > Hi all
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia
>>>> work to
>>>> >>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
>>>> >>> list...when
>>>> >>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage
>>>> my
>>>> >>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > 1. easy add references
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
>>>> >>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy
>>>> and
>>>> >>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on
>>>> BibTeX
>>>> >>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
>>>> >>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing
>>>> new
>>>> >>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download
>>>> PDFs
>>>> >> from a doi or crossref query.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
>>>> >>> solution)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected
>>>> references in
>>>> >>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can
>>>> see
>>>> >>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
>>>> >>> for that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
>>>> >>> > go?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>   Titus
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> John
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----------------------------------
>>>> >> Professor John Kitchin
>>>> >> Doherty Hall A207F
>>>> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
>>>> >> Carnegie Mellon University
>>>> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>>> >> 412-268-7803
>>>> >> @johnkitchin
>>>> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex)

[Titus von der Malsburg]

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John’s code should do the trick.  I don’t see how this could possibly
cause your problems with the action menu.  The change should be
completely transparent for Helm.

Regarding your other question: I don’t see any disadvantages of using
several BibTeX files but I also don’t see an advantage because
helm-bibtex gives you all you need to select your own publications with
just a few key strokes.  If helm-bibtex’ search does not work well in
your case (perhaps another author has the same name as you), I would
suggest using tags to mark your own publications:

  https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex#tagging-publications

Titus


On 2015-12-05 Sat 05:31, John Kitchin wrote:
> I cannot reproduce that, and it shouldn't have any effect. Maybe
> something else is going on.
>
>>
>> Thanks for the quick answer. this does seem to work but as a side effect
>> seems to break the TAB key to select action
>> the message window shows:
>>
>> helm-select-nth-action: Nothing is selected
>> No Actions available [8 times]
>>
>> thx again
>>
>> Z
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Try (untested)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Professor John Kitchin
>>> Doherty Hall A207F
>>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>>> Carnegie Mellon University
>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>> 412-268-7803
>>> @johnkitchin
>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi again Titus and list
>>>>
>>>> so the semester is finally nearing the end which means i finally have
>>>> some time (and a life :)) to get back to what i partially started a few
>>>> months ago.
>>>>
>>>> i have a question regarding Predefined searches. i have a search that
>>>> works well for searching papers i authored.
>>>> i am thinking of moving towards 2 bib files instead of 1 big one, that is
>>>> one for my papers and one for the rest (any disadvantages of using 2 bib
>>>> files?).
>>>> i want to add in the Predefined search to only draw from my file (mypaper.bib),
>>>> even though in the default helm-bibtex sources it will have 2 inputs. is
>>>> such a thing possible?
>>>>
>>>> this is how a current search i have looks like
>>>>
>>>> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results none
>>>>
>>>>  ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression:
>>>>  (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
>>>>    "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
>>>>    (interactive)
>>>>    (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
>>>>          :full-frame t
>>>>          :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
>>>>          :candidate-number-limit 500))
>>>> #+END_SRC
>>>>
>>>> how does one add the specific .bib file filter?
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> Z
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <
>>>> malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-05-31 Sun 03:01, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate
>>>>> this
>>>>> > further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > thanks again
>>>>> >
>>>>> > PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list
>>>>> > could be user customizable in the future?
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on what you mean by customizable.  If you mean a customization
>>>>> option to allows you to replace the function for APA formatting with
>>>>> another function, then yes that would definitely make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Titus
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Z.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu
>>>>> >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
>>>>> >>> > Hi all
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia
>>>>> work to
>>>>> >>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
>>>>> >>> list...when
>>>>> >>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage
>>>>> my
>>>>> >>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > 1. easy add references
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibTeX
>>>>> >>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy
>>>>> and
>>>>> >>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on
>>>>> BibTeX
>>>>> >>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
>>>>> >>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing
>>>>> new
>>>>> >>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download
>>>>> PDFs
>>>>> >> from a doi or crossref query.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good
>>>>> >>> solution)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected
>>>>> references in
>>>>> >>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago etc)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can
>>>>> see
>>>>> >>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add support
>>>>> >>> for that.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to
>>>>> >>> > go?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>   Titus
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> John
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----------------------------------
>>>>> >> Professor John Kitchin
>>>>> >> Doherty Hall A207F
>>>>> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
>>>>> >> Carnegie Mellon University
>>>>> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>>>> >> 412-268-7803
>>>>> >> @johnkitchin
>>>>> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>


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[Xebar Saram]

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Hi Guys

I have no clue why i had the issue before but after an emacs restart Johns
code snippet does work :D

thanks again guys, really appreciate your help as always

kind regards

Z

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
wrote:

>
> John’s code should do the trick.  I don’t see how this could possibly
> cause your problems with the action menu.  The change should be
> completely transparent for Helm.
>
> Regarding your other question: I don’t see any disadvantages of using
> several BibTeX files but I also don’t see an advantage because
> helm-bibtex gives you all you need to select your own publications with
> just a few key strokes.  If helm-bibtex’ search does not work well in
> your case (perhaps another author has the same name as you), I would
> suggest using tags to mark your own publications:
>
>   https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex#tagging-publications
>
> Titus
>
>
> On 2015-12-05 Sat 05:31, John Kitchin wrote:
> > I cannot reproduce that, and it shouldn't have any effect. Maybe
> > something else is going on.
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks for the quick answer. this does seem to work but as a side effect
> >> seems to break the TAB key to select action
> >> the message window shows:
> >>
> >> helm-select-nth-action: Nothing is selected
> >> No Actions available [8 times]
> >>
> >> thx again
> >>
> >> Z
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Try (untested)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------------------
> >>> Professor John Kitchin
> >>> Doherty Hall A207F
> >>> Department of Chemical Engineering
> >>> Carnegie Mellon University
> >>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> >>> 412-268-7803
> >>> @johnkitchin
> >>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi again Titus and list
> >>>>
> >>>> so the semester is finally nearing the end which means i finally have
> >>>> some time (and a life :)) to get back to what i partially started a
> few
> >>>> months ago.
> >>>>
> >>>> i have a question regarding Predefined searches. i have a search that
> >>>> works well for searching papers i authored.
> >>>> i am thinking of moving towards 2 bib files instead of 1 big one,
> that is
> >>>> one for my papers and one for the rest (any disadvantages of using 2
> bib
> >>>> files?).
> >>>> i want to add in the Predefined search to only draw from my file
> (mypaper.bib),
> >>>> even though in the default helm-bibtex sources it will have 2 inputs.
> is
> >>>> such a thing possible?
> >>>>
> >>>> this is how a current search i have looks like
> >>>>
> >>>> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results none
> >>>>
> >>>>  ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression:
> >>>>  (defun helm-bibtex-ikloog-publications ()
> >>>>    "Search BibTeX entries authored by me"
> >>>>    (interactive)
> >>>>    (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
> >>>>          :full-frame t
> >>>>          :input "kloog !unpublished !prep "
> >>>>          :candidate-number-limit 500))
> >>>> #+END_SRC
> >>>>
> >>>> how does one add the specific .bib file filter?
> >>>>
> >>>> best
> >>>>
> >>>> Z
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <
> >>>> malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2015-05-31 Sun 03:01, Xebar Saram wrote:
> >>>>> > Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> > further today and let everyone know how im going with my
> transition :)
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > thanks again
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > PS: Titus, do you think  that the helm-bibtex APA style reference
> list
> >>>>> > could be user customizable in the future?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Depends on what you mean by customizable.  If you mean a
> customization
> >>>>> option to allows you to replace the function for APA formatting with
> >>>>> another function, then yes that would definitely make sense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Titus
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Z.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <
> jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <
> malsburg@posteo.de
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
> >>>>> >>> > Hi all
> >>>>> >>> >
> >>>>> >>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia
> >>>>> work to
> >>>>> >>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO
> >>>>> >>> list...when
> >>>>> >>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to
> manage
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> >>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Author of helm-bibtex here.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> > 1. easy add references
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Helm-bibtex doesn’t deal with this because I prefer to edit my
> BibTeX
> >>>>> >>> file by hand.  BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always
> messy
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> >>> I need to edit it anyway.  It’s not too hard, though: I click on
> >>>>> BibTeX
> >>>>> >>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs,
> I fix
> >>>>> >>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support
> importing
> >>>>> new
> >>>>> >>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download
> >>>>> PDFs
> >>>>> >> from a doi or crossref query.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a
> good
> >>>>> >>> solution)
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> That’s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that
> covered)
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected
> >>>>> references in
> >>>>> >>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie  Nature, Chicago
> etc)
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I
> can
> >>>>> see
> >>>>> >>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn’t be hard to add
> support
> >>>>> >>> for that.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the
> way to
> >>>>> >>> > go?
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>   Titus
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> --
> >>>>> >> John
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> -----------------------------------
> >>>>> >> Professor John Kitchin
> >>>>> >> Doherty Hall A207F
> >>>>> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
> >>>>> >> Carnegie Mellon University
> >>>>> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> >>>>> >> 412-268-7803
> >>>>> >> @johnkitchin
> >>>>> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
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