From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 4F7MMHaGVGDQBQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:09:42 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id qNyZLHaGVGAFIwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:09:42 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4C3E17ED6 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:09:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55684 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lND0f-0000Qa-0W for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 07:09:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNCzU-0000LP-C4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 07:08:29 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:48461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNCzL-0007fy-8r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 07:08:25 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E504D16005F for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:08:16 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1616152096; bh=eyIfvSsuW/IEMMKIcG1TC2W5Cgbtfdqr6H5vaz6oHqk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=IETZb5vMqaMxDhS0cQgSceNt5hCi3CLqwwh98aV4n+Uq0oZJYezf1A16+/GUu3eYU Yc9bo70M/kfovo8fj87g1aW5R4N5CRtAvBao7FtCd4z5fPFjU5oDE5JtA69GPUmiAE Wbc/9kpjAN5zhYEU39tmlUxlFB/lr/cthzhDzHVC3lHg2P9Z3aVxJnlmrblFrIPGIG XHF+IiLvnptDHX2OUxtE8cMNqZdk6RyWQ5zyF793h+vQZGgyL6puwH4Ws2Y7neTppA dFZZQRtDu76r3KzJi29FRdSO25UTxYC1qcPFZqAd2yGhm3PnUJTnp67wTQ9sarbmLz LgaFMeu5ih/Ig== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4F21Mx1fYyz6tmG; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:08:13 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: tomas@tuxteam.de Subject: Re: Syntax Proposal: Multi-line Table Cells/Text Wrapping References: <7a450ea3-b0e4-3322-04cd-fb5a5a555db8@gmx.com> <87o8fgwn9s.fsf@gmail.com> <9533dd41-ec81-43dd-8d25-a41300eb720c@gmx.com> <87czvw85ym.fsf@gmail.com> <8735wsdr08.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319080843.GA24268@tuxteam.de> <87ft0rzg5b.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319085339.GC24268@tuxteam.de> <878s6jzeer.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319101420.GA30401@tuxteam.de> <87o8ffxvmt.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:08:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87o8ffxvmt.fsf@posteo.net> ("Juan Manuel =?utf-8?Q?Mac=C3=AD?= =?utf-8?Q?as=22's?= message of "Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:53:14 +0100") Message-ID: <87h7l7xuxw.fsf@posteo.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I meant "...n columns x n rows..."=20 Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas writes: > Anyway, I suspect that Org tables are not originally intended for such a > 'literary' content :-) ... LaTeX tabular(x) environment and Org tables > have in common that they are plain text, but that=E2=80=99s where the > similarities end. Org tables are visual (close to the WYSIWYG concept), > which is why they are wonderful when it comes to mere data tables (and n > files x n rows). The LaTeX tabular environment is crude, it is not > 'visual' (except for the facilities provided by the editor), and when > the table becomes large and complex it can be a torture working in > there... So perhaps (IMHO) the solution to edit a cell in a dedicated > buffer could be the least traumatic in complex cells, in case one wants > to avoid going crazy by editing this kind of huge and literary tables in > LaTeX ;-)