From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rasmus Subject: Re: [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:30:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87eh8ntw2b.fsf@gmx.us> References: <87ob7z4nzl.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <877gentvmv.fsf@gmx.us> <87wqmmos25.fsf@gmail.com> <20130913100125.257db23d@vknecht-intel.unibw-hamburg.de> <87ioy1vya1.fsf@gmx.us> <874n9kwott.fsf@gmx.us> <87zjrcmdai.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VLvMP-0005j6-6X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:30:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VLvMF-000323-NT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:30:33 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:61159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VLvMF-00031w-D1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:30:23 -0400 Received: from pank ([192.167.90.140]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLzXM-1VGP3417jY-007l7O for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:30:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zjrcmdai.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:45:25 +0800") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: eric@ericabrahamsen.net Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, carsten.dominik@gmail.com Hi Eric, >> While automatic package handling is very exciting it could go awry. > > I'm not too in favor of automatic package detection. Unless it works > nearly perfectly, it just seems like trading one kind of user irritation > for another. Yeah. > Personally, I _always_ blast the default packages and load my own stuff. > > One potential middle ground would be providing defaults "sets": for > instance LATEX_MATH_DEFAULTS (or whatever), that provided a couple > choices for math-related package suites that are known to work well > together. > > Meh, maybe not. It's just not much different from org-latex-classes. . . Perhaps it would be nice for reproducibility between documents. But, yeah. . . >> Fixes are usually available. For instance, I use a filter to disable >> fontenc/inputenc if pdflatex is not used (it breaks xelatex for me). > > If anything was going to be automatically detected and handled, it seems > like it should be this. This is one of the main reasons I gave up trying > to use the defaults at all. The nice thing is that such stuff can be handled pretty conveniently on the TeX side so that documents can be used for different engines cf. my other post. I also use this for e.g. fonts; I like Linux Libertine for the final version, but usually don't want to deal with the slowdown of xelatex. =E2=80=93Rasmus --=20 The Kids call him Billy the Saint