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(was: org-ctags land grab) In-Reply-To: <87355qp41z.fsf@web.de> References: <87o7omg4ie.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <87pm91ngb8.fsf@localhost> <87jzz8f3re.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <87mt43agk6.fsf@localhost> <874jq8ohbr.fsf@localhost> <87355qp41z.fsf@web.de> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:55:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87edp9w67g.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A1708E5DA X-Spam-Score: -6.65 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.65 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-TUID: FiO9x2arlNiF "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: >> This is convincing. >> I am then CCing Bastien, as, despite the Elisp convention, following it >> will break https://bzg.fr/en/the-software-maintainers-pledge/ > > Isn=E2=80=99t the problem that the behavior changed =E2=80=94 so that org= -ctags gets > loaded in Emacs 30 but not in Emacs 28 is already an incompatible > change? It is a secondary problem. In earlier Emacs you would get the same side effects if, for example, you try C-h f org-ctags- . `help-enable-autoload' is there since Emacs 24. The root cause of this and similar reported issues (like with org-mouse, see https://orgmode.org/list/87iliie0j1.fsf@localhost) is optional Org modules having side effects when loaded. --=20 Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at