From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id sFUZNgU7MGODJQEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 13:27:02 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id gNk0NQU7MGOUCAAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 13:27:01 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AC9541393 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 13:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57278 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocPmm-0008Rc-Nq for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:27:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59480) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocPmB-0008Pq-61 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:26:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocPm8-0005YS-GM; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:26:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=NB8YbNgp+BdPVREiWxfUI0sE2nN1kvkvoOGidetXac8=; b=BofgFIi56z2nuSNqFOwC GxmODvbMbr3S7T5OXuTSHKXODyf1kEbSobe41W7kNcp+feMyDB0YS0nc5UDR0mKn+uCqL5aSe3cfG nM2ewl/XpuZnbAT/s+Gsa5bY7tUk/8sZM1iqK6nkuQPnqrVAijnpqej8EG/b38WtaccJydVysx7Fh onVx/t2tqPsC/0D8st6ZOwaZC4izC7XLdQ1pgLEcUHklYjcbtuKDu6Ixak7lwzWdXZ3Q8qhUhmvw2 QiBHjN0wbhZgl94WsbzEG+KFiwvgHkcdqbTrCnUA/4EVDGV5nBER3X6Xl6jWzn3d0NGkTzouAf+NY 37y3UGnxjvkusA==; Received: from 96.52.140.77.rev.sfr.net ([77.140.52.96]:39418 helo=hal) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocPm6-0002zT-74; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:26:19 -0400 Received: by hal (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A18021E0409; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 13:26:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: org-assert-version considered harmful In-Reply-To: <87v8pbr9ov.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sun, 25 Sep 2022 19:10:40 +0800") Organization: GNU References: <875yhsujkq.fsf@localhost> <87h71ct10n.fsf@localhost> <87tu5bbajh.fsf@localhost> <87r10ey8ov.fsf@localhost> <87o7v4dvon.fsf@gnu.org> <874jww16w3.fsf@localhost> <87pmfjpzfw.fsf@bzg.fr> <871qrzsrqd.fsf@localhost> <8735cfn44v.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8pbr9ov.fsf@localhost> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 13:26:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87czbjelux.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664105221; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=NB8YbNgp+BdPVREiWxfUI0sE2nN1kvkvoOGidetXac8=; b=HB6t+NkYcUFxqeO0GwptD46V8mTgStlo5P49UXCwsWlvizg851x+Ecn+yayC+OixQmADBM 3/a09MFf6xBLoqUsyAUMuoF2bGKQa0qLhTfWQbBdRTqSBzLXllVVak4ZhhT6U/SENEHsGu riIfOzVuWTVdmpPrseZPJJbFrw7/W3E9axHsckuPVgFoize8J47TZ+M5FLC/RZczXHkjAK HButG7RThbOTk83bzC3USZrkxj5m0e4pbyZ9IW5wZP9nakdQFe2V7wiATqLa/NmKy4Cpd0 WIelddSl1+35LxPMGWn5j7+ScbmGBzNVwU2lEg7ZyMqewNbTo7fvjkqEGP8TCA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664105221; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mRF9XljylZfPhKbXFznwlxUbEUhS4aVWTlNYlQKM58MVsCaEI/004URwiWgwMRhsUjWV6Y vMT7T4D+NmrtzUURVllbckuxSmjdmrbdNhsLHWy1TK8DbcugPcqOdBvLNCkKTayuUXw+KZ 6JFLzp8lRt13/I7MRTzjlLHkKXaC0PHtHd3VjxTZ5XOo51k/oypBd9wZ6fo13uJeTNYpWM v3RgQPTgpEA80uFfIJtbF0i0yj6HUZYdvI3jzuE/3Oaa/elHUNCW/HFpoaLSPX4C9Os/AK 6c/xvFHtkx9fj1QpO4+u7R1k85aQQ5jNhe8fy2dEKXIMbOcTkywsnYRXznOZEg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=BofgFIi5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.05 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=BofgFIi5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7AC9541393 X-Spam-Score: -5.05 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: NmwslMnJSfAe Ihor Radchenko writes: > I think that it will still be useful. In particular, consider major new > feature development. We may take a longer delay between releases then. Yes. > The code I quoted explicitly removes the "-dev" part. Would you prefer > to keep it? Yes, let's keep it, otherwise (org-release) reads like a lie. Why is it necessary to emit org-version.el? We could have (defun org-version ...) and (defun org-git-version ...) from within org.el, right? Also, I don't think we need org-release: the info org-version provides is enough to know if you are loading Org from a stable (ELPA) release or from a local git repository. WDYT? > See the attached. Tested and works fine, modulo the -dev part that we should keep. Thanks! -- Bastien