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Both these things may not come together, or at the same time. For instance,= I=E2=80=99m currently talking to someone on the Doom discord who has a few potential improvement to Org in the works, and the main barrier to us hearing about t= hem is their nervousness at sending an email in to the Org ML. Like it or not, I have the distinct impression that > to be fine with working by email, the old way. is a much greater ask than it used to be. Some people may come around with = time, but for getting started at least I think there=E2=80=99s quite a bit of val= ue in having less =E2=80=9Calien=E2=80=9D way of getting started. One could argue that b= y neglecting non-ML/IRC ways of interacting with the Org project we are accidentally sec= eding territory to non-free services like reddit, stackexchange, and co. All the best, Timothy --=-=-=--