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At the moment, I tend to > think that the Org-mode community should provide directions by > developing a formal definition of the syntax and maybe later-on > define viable sub-sets (the OD levels?) so that tool developers > don't have to implement the whole large thing. > > At this stage, I don't know what discussions you're trying to start > here. Can you elaborate? You can start from reading https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html and providing suggestions to improve it. That document will eventually become the syntax reference. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at