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Variable substitution is really > important since it is an abstraction to make the same org file works on > different hosts with different path hierarchies. I believe there are > lots of users already rely on it, even without being documented. The > reasonable thinking would be supporting more substitutions, rather than > remove any. Do not worry. https://bzg.fr/en/the-software-maintainers-pledge/: I won't break your user experience. I won't remove features. ... I just wanted to point out that a discussion may be needed wrt export. Maybe some other export backends also support env variables in file paths? We should be a bit more careful if we want to support the substitution everywhere, not just when opening file links from Emacs. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at