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From: "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>
To: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Preferred posting style
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2023 09:29:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cywtop0l.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZUIBi2icqeOGDhIw@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Wed, 1 Nov 2023 08:43:07 +0100")

<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:

> On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 08:32:44AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Assuming the quoting of previous postings works (above there seems to be
>> a discrepancy between '>>' and '> >', although Gnus seems to handle
>> that),  is there some sort of 'bottom-postify' command which would
>> reorder the quotes?  I occasionally do this by hand if I find the text
>> makes no sense to me otherwise.
>
> ISTR there was something, not in the Emacs context, alas, and before
> the First Internet Supernova (aka roughly Y2K, when Google had the
> choice to either go bust or go evil).
>
> I guess it won't work, since proper "bottom posting" is a bit more
> than just putting the whole kaboodle above and your two lines below. 

That maybe true.  However, it would probably cover well over 90% of my
uses-cases.  Often someone sends me a message, I bottom-post an
interleaved reply, and then the other person top-posts their answer.  In
this case would be enough just to move the other person's singly quoted,
non-interleaved text to the bottom.

> It takes some involvement on the responder's side to pick and choose
> the parts of the message she's addressing in the response.

Once the blunt bottomification has been done, I can always delete stuff
that isn't relevant, although usually I wouldn't need to do that. 

> Perhaps, with a large language model...

Maybe, but then I would probably wait until one is advanced enough can
answer all my mail and deal with all follow-ups entirely on its own :-)

> More seriously: those are simply different cultures. I strongly doubt
> you can bridge that with "just" a technical device (although it may
> help sometimes).

As I think you said, the mixture of top- and bottom posting is the
worst, so it would be nice to have something to fix at least the simple
cases.

However I should probably raise the topic on the Gnus list rather than
discussing it any further here.

Cheers,

Loris

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-01  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-30 15:55 Preferred posting style yaxp
2023-10-30 16:43 ` Fraga, Eric
2023-10-31 20:42 ` Bastien
2023-11-01  3:58 ` David Masterson
2023-11-01  7:09   ` tomas
2023-11-01  7:32     ` Loris Bennett
2023-11-01  7:43       ` tomas
2023-11-01  8:29         ` Loris Bennett [this message]
2023-11-01 23:31           ` David Masterson
2023-11-01 10:45 ` Ihor Radchenko

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