From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: Organize Your Life In Plain Text! Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:32:14 -0400 Message-ID: <87bpq4v91t.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: <87zldovowk.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <87k54svjlk.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4a035da6.0407560a.7391.ffffc270@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M2C8g-0004Wb-5m for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 18:32:26 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M2C8c-0004UU-58 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 18:32:25 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42624 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M2C8b-0004UL-Rc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 18:32:21 -0400 Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.71]:61285) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M2C8b-0000wf-Iu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 18:32:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4a035da6.0407560a.7391.ffffc270@mx.google.com> (Memnon Anon's message of "Fri\, 08 May 2009 00\:15\:49 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Memnon Anon Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org cc-ing the org-mode mailing list Memnon Anon writes: > Hi! > > I have one question: > > ,---- > | Use the agenda view for STARTED tasks to find stuff in progress and > | things to clock. I clock everything - some tasks are always in a STARTED > | state (Like Organization, Email News and IRC, etc) > `---- > > Doesn't it defeat the purpose to a certain degree to keep tasks > 'started' all the time? I intend to increase my personal logging, > but I think I will keep some tasks like 'mail+news' without any > todo state. Maybe an extra state -'undefined' or 'rep' or something like > this- for this kind would be clever? > > What do you think? > Hi! I used to have a special keyword ONGOING for things that I do a lot and want to clock but never really start/end. I had a special agenda view for ONGOING tasks that I would pull up to easily find the thing I want to clock. Since then I've moved away from using the ONGOING todo keyword and just use STARTED the same way. If a task is clocked in it automatically moves to a STARTED todo state and shows up on the list without having to think about it. Having an agenda view that shows STARTED tasks makes it easy to pick the thing to clock - and I don't have to remember if I need to look in the ONGOING list or the STARTED list when looking for the task to clock in. The STARTED list is basically 'what is current' - stuff I worked on recently and need to continue working on. I want to find the thing to work on as fast as I can and actually do work on it - not spend time hunting through my org files for the task that needs to be clocked in. I just find it easier to have it all in one short list. My STARTED list has less than 20 entries so it's pretty easy to find what I want. The whole point of the STARTED list is to make it easy and quick to find the task to clock in. I only have 2 tasks that are permanently in a STARTED state. These are: - Organization - Email, News, and IRC Everything else will eventually move to a DONE state and fall off the list. I found having two lists more confusing than just the single STARTED list. -Bernt