From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: psycho_punch Subject: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 07:56:29 +0800 Message-ID: Reply-To: psychopunch.me@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a982ee067eb04fb5bd77c Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtmwx-0006bS-NN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 19:56:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtmww-00015K-Ks for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 19:56:31 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]:56812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtmww-00015E-FG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 19:56:30 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id r2so1301031igi.0 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 16:56:29 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --047d7b3a982ee067eb04fb5bd77c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have posted this question on StackOverflow but in case you don't want to visit the page, I've pasted the contents in this email. I have just upgraded org-mode to the latest available in ELPA. According to the official documentation, the installation has to be done in fresh emacs session where no org-related scripts/files have been loaded. The installation is successful, and org-version reports that I have updated to 8.2.6 (from 7.9.3f). However, as soon as I put back my old org-related scripts, and reload emacs, I'd get 7.9.3f when I run org-version. To track what's causing it I retrace my steps by adding my org-related scripts one by one. I found out that when I add back (require 'org-publish), the version downgrades to the built-in one. I don't know why this is happening. Thanks. --047d7b3a982ee067eb04fb5bd77c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have posted th= is question on StackOverflow but in case you don't want to visit th= e page, I've pasted the contents in this email.

I have just upgraded org-mode to the latest available in ELPA. Accordin= g to the official documentation, the installation has to be done in fresh emacs session where no org-related scripts/files have been loaded. The=20 installation is successful, and org-version reports that I=20 have updated to 8.2.6 (from 7.9.3f). However, as soon as I put back my=20 old org-related scripts, and reload emacs, I'd get 7.9.3f when I run org-version. To track what's causing it I retrace my steps b= y adding my org-related scripts one by one. I found out that when I add bac= k (require 'org-publish), the version downgrades to the bu= ilt-in one. I don't know why this is happening.

Thanks.
--047d7b3a982ee067eb04fb5bd77c-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:42:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57257) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtsMK-00027r-O8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtsMD-0004mP-0D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:04 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtsMC-0004mJ-Pd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:42:56 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WtsMB-0006a2-5v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:42:55 +0200 Received: from pd9eb3b33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.59.51]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:42:55 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb3b33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:42:55 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org psycho_punch writes: > I have just upgraded org-mode to the latest available in ELPA. > According to the official documentation, the installation has to be > done in fresh emacs session where no org-related scripts/files have > been loaded. The installation is successful, and org-version reports > that I have updated to 8.2.6 (from 7.9.3f). However, as soon as I put > back my old org-related scripts, and reload emacs, I'd get 7.9.3f when > I run org-version. To track what's causing it I retrace my steps by > adding my org-related scripts one by one. I found out that when I add > back (require 'org-publish), the version downgrades to the built-in > one. I don't know why this is happening. You need to replace this with (require 'ox-publish). As to why this is happening, you're sending Emacs down the wrong rabbit hole to search for Org and the autoload stuff will do the rest. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: psycho_punch Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:17:00 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Reply-To: psychopunch.me@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a982ede6eb704fb62d515 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtulK-0005eX-Eu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:17:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtulJ-00062Y-5h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:17:02 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]:45507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtulJ-00062P-0C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:17:01 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id a13so3548854igq.9 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:17:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --047d7b3a982ede6eb704fb62d515 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Ok, so apparently, ox-publish doesn't get loaded after init in my setup; I'm not sure why. What I have done so far is to run the publish script after init using the after-init-hook. However, I feel like this shouldn't be how it's done. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Achim Gratz wrote: > psycho_punch writes: > > I have just upgraded org-mode to the latest available in ELPA. > > According to the official documentation, the installation has to be > > done in fresh emacs session where no org-related scripts/files have > > been loaded. The installation is successful, and org-version reports > > that I have updated to 8.2.6 (from 7.9.3f). However, as soon as I put > > back my old org-related scripts, and reload emacs, I'd get 7.9.3f when > > I run org-version. To track what's causing it I retrace my steps by > > adding my org-related scripts one by one. I found out that when I add > > back (require 'org-publish), the version downgrades to the built-in > > one. I don't know why this is happening. > > You need to replace this with (require 'ox-publish). As to why this is > happening, you're sending Emacs down the wrong rabbit hole to search for > Org and the autoload stuff will do the rest. > > > Regards, > Achim. > -- > +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ > > Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER: > http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves > > > --047d7b3a982ede6eb704fb62d515 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, so apparently, ox-publish doesn't get loaded after= init in my setup; I'm not sure why. What I have done so far is to run = the publish script after init using the after-init-hook. However, I feel li= ke this shouldn't be how it's done.


On Mon,= Jun 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> wro= te:
psycho_punch writes:
> I have just upgraded org-mode to the latest available in ELPA.
> According to the official documentation, the installation has to be > done in fresh emacs session where no org-related scripts/files have > been loaded. The installation is successful, and org-version reports > that I have updated to 8.2.6 (from 7.9.3f). However, as soon as I put<= br> > back my old org-related scripts, and reload emacs, I'd get 7.9.3f = when
> I run org-version. To track what's causing it I retrace my steps b= y
> adding my org-related scripts one by one. I found out that when I add<= br> > back (require 'org-publish), the version downgrades to the built-i= n
> one. I don't know why this is happening.

You need to replace this with (require 'ox-publish). =C2=A0As to = why this is
happening, you're sending Emacs down the wrong rabbit hole to search fo= r
Org and the autoload stuff will do the rest.


Regards,
Achim.
--
+<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+<= br>
Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER:
http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves



--047d7b3a982ede6eb704fb62d515-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: rdgoite Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:18:46 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0129478409cce504fb612f2c Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtsuu-0008Hh-BE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 02:18:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtsut-0008RZ-7R for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 02:18:48 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]:58477) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtsut-0008RV-23 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 02:18:47 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id tp5so3743726ieb.34 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 23:18:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --089e0129478409cce504fb612f2c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've tried replacing it with 'ox-publish but it can't be found. Does it need to be installed separately? --- sent through my mobile On Jun 9, 2014 1:43 PM, "Achim Gratz" wrote: > psycho_punch writes: > > I have just upgraded org-mode to the latest available in ELPA. > > According to the official documentation, the installation has to be > > done in fresh emacs session where no org-related scripts/files have > > been loaded. The installation is successful, and org-version reports > > that I have updated to 8.2.6 (from 7.9.3f). However, as soon as I put > > back my old org-related scripts, and reload emacs, I'd get 7.9.3f when > > I run org-version. To track what's causing it I retrace my steps by > > adding my org-related scripts one by one. I found out that when I add > > back (require 'org-publish), the version downgrades to the built-in > > one. I don't know why this is happening. > > You need to replace this with (require 'ox-publish). As to why this is > happening, you're sending Emacs down the wrong rabbit hole to search for > Org and the autoload stuff will do the rest. > > > Regards, > Achim. > -- > +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ > > Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER: > http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves > > > --089e0129478409cce504fb612f2c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've tried replacing it with 'ox-publish but it can&= #39;t be found. Does it need to be installed separately?

---
sent through my mobile

On Jun 9, 2014 1:43 PM, "Achim Gratz" = <Stromeko@nexgo.de> wrote:
psycho_punch writes:
> I have just upgraded org-mode to the latest available in ELPA.
> According to the official documentation, the installation has to be > done in fresh emacs session where no org-related scripts/files have > been loaded. The installation is successful, and org-version reports > that I have updated to 8.2.6 (from 7.9.3f). However, as soon as I put<= br> > back my old org-related scripts, and reload emacs, I'd get 7.9.3f = when
> I run org-version. To track what's causing it I retrace my steps b= y
> adding my org-related scripts one by one. I found out that when I add<= br> > back (require 'org-publish), the version downgrades to the built-i= n
> one. I don't know why this is happening.

You need to replace this with (require 'ox-publish). =C2=A0As to why th= is is
happening, you're sending Emacs down the wrong rabbit hole to search fo= r
Org and the autoload stuff will do the rest.


Regards,
Achim.
--
+<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+<= br>
Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER:
http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves


--089e0129478409cce504fb612f2c-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:04:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49199) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtxO7-0004UM-K0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:05:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtxO1-0005Ex-BF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:05:15 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtxO1-0005Et-57 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:05:09 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WtxO0-0004xP-5e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:05:08 +0200 Received: from pd9eb3913.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.57.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:05:08 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb3913.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:05:08 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org psycho_punch writes: > Ok, so apparently, ox-publish doesn't get loaded after init in my > setup; I'm not sure why. What I have done so far is to run the publish > script after init using the after-init-hook. However, I feel like this > shouldn't be how it's done. It's hard to tell, but you're likely trying to configure Org before package-initialize has run. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: psycho_punch Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 19:36:04 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Reply-To: psychopunch.me@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0129555cca4a3104fb659d65 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56945) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtxry-0007Su-DE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:36:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtxrx-000898-5N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:36:06 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]:41057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtxrx-00088q-01 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:36:05 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id h3so3683976igd.5 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:36:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --089e0129555cca4a3104fb659d65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've defined my initialization script in ~/.emacs.d/init.el; I'm not sure if it matters. So since 'ox-publish doesn't get loaded until after initialization, I defined: (add-hook 'after-init-hook (lambda() (load-file "/path/to/org-publish-project.el"))) I'm wondering when do the packages installed via package-install get loaded... On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Achim Gratz wrote: > psycho_punch writes: > > Ok, so apparently, ox-publish doesn't get loaded after init in my > > setup; I'm not sure why. What I have done so far is to run the publish > > script after init using the after-init-hook. However, I feel like this > > shouldn't be how it's done. > > It's hard to tell, but you're likely trying to configure Org before > package-initialize has run. > > > Regards, > Achim. > -- > +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ > > Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: > http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds > > > --089e0129555cca4a3104fb659d65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've defined my initialization script in ~/.emacs.d/in= it.el; I'm not sure if it matters. So since 'ox-publish doesn't= get loaded until after initialization, I defined:

(add-hook 'after-init-hook (lambda() (load-file "/path/to/org-= publish-project.el")))

I'm wondering when do the pac= kages installed via package-install get loaded...



On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Achim Gr= atz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> wrote:
psycho_punch writes:
> Ok, so apparently, ox-publish doesn't get loaded after init in my<= br> > setup; I'm not sure why. What I have done so far is to run the pub= lish
> script after init using the after-init-hook. However, I feel like this=
> shouldn't be how it's done.

It's hard to tell, but you're likely trying to configure Org = before
package-initialize has run.


Regards,
Achim.
--
+<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+<= br>
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--089e0129555cca4a3104fb659d65-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alexis Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:59:40 +1000 Message-ID: <87d2eis34k.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34505) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyH4-0007Uz-S9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:02:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyGv-0000eB-Nq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:02:02 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22d]:49030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyGv-0000e1-Gt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:01:53 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id um1so4885330pbc.32 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp118-209-100-220.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net. [118.209.100.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ue7sm3073539pab.26.2014.06.09.05.01.50 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Jun 2014 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org psycho_punch writes: > I've defined my initialization script in ~/.emacs.d/init.el; I'm not sure > if it matters. So since 'ox-publish doesn't get loaded until after > initialization, I defined: > > (add-hook 'after-init-hook (lambda() (load-file > "/path/to/org-publish-project.el"))) > > I'm wondering when do the packages installed via package-install get > loaded... They get loaded when (package-initialize) is called in one's initialisation file(s). Alexis. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: psycho_punch Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 20:16:41 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87d2eis34k.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: psychopunch.me@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0129478409b03e04fb662fca Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyVH-0004ay-Fl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:16:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyVF-0005ym-VP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:16:43 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]:47539) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyVF-0005yL-R2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:16:41 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id h3so3747202igd.2 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 05:16:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87d2eis34k.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Alexis Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --089e0129478409b03e04fb662fca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 So I need to explicitly call (package-initialize) in init.el, probably one of the, if not the, first line? On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Alexis wrote: > > psycho_punch writes: > > > I've defined my initialization script in ~/.emacs.d/init.el; I'm not sure > > if it matters. So since 'ox-publish doesn't get loaded until after > > initialization, I defined: > > > > (add-hook 'after-init-hook (lambda() (load-file > > "/path/to/org-publish-project.el"))) > > > > I'm wondering when do the packages installed via package-install get > > loaded... > > They get loaded when (package-initialize) is called in one's > initialisation file(s). > > > Alexis. > > --089e0129478409b03e04fb662fca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So I need to explicitly call (package-initialize) in init.= el, probably one of the, if not the, first line?


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:59 PM= , Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> wrote:

psycho_punch writes:

> I've defined my initialization script in ~/.emacs.d/init.el; I'= ;m not sure
> if it matters. So since 'ox-publish doesn't get loaded until a= fter
> initialization, I defined:
>
> (add-hook 'after-init-hook (lambda() (load-file
> "/path/to/org-publish-project.el")))
>
> I'm wondering when do the packages installed via package-install g= et
> loaded...

They get loaded when (package-initialize) is called in one's
initialisation file(s).


Alexis.


--089e0129478409b03e04fb662fca-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:43:02 +0800 Message-ID: <87egyy45k9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87d2eis34k.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43469) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyrX-0002us-VH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:39:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyrQ-0005c1-BC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:39:43 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyrQ-0005bl-5G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:39:36 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WtyrO-00037Y-OZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 14:39:34 +0200 Received: from 114.248.0.25 ([114.248.0.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 14:39:34 +0200 Received: from eric by 114.248.0.25 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 14:39:34 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org psycho_punch writes: > So I need to explicitly call (package-initialize) in init.el, > probably one of the, if not the, first line? If I recall correctly, the recommended thing is to put all of your package-specific customizations either in the customize interface (in which case they'll get applied correctly) or behind either a mode hook, or an eval-after-load. Also see package-enable-at-startup, in the info node (emacs) Package Installation E > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Alexis wrote: > > > psycho_punch writes: > > > I've defined my initialization script in ~/.emacs.d/init.el; > I'm not sure > > if it matters. So since 'ox-publish doesn't get loaded until > after > > initialization, I defined: > > > > (add-hook 'after-init-hook (lambda() (load-file > > "/path/to/org-publish-project.el"))) > > > > I'm wondering when do the packages installed via > package-install get > > loaded... > > They get loaded when (package-initialize) is called in one's > initialisation file(s). > > > Alexis. > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: jorge.a.alfaro@gmail.com (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:42:22 -0400 Message-ID: <878up69p35.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87d2eis34k.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60266) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtzqR-0002A7-06 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:42:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtzqI-0002WO-Dq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:42:38 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56141) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtzqI-0002WA-76 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:42:30 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WtzqG-0003y9-RK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:42:28 +0200 Received: from nat-130-132-173-153.central.yale.edu ([130.132.173.153]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:42:28 +0200 Received: from jorge.a.alfaro by nat-130-132-173-153.central.yale.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:42:28 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org psycho_punch writes: > So I need to explicitly call (package-initialize) in init.el, probably > one of the, if not the, first line? Yes, I had a similar issue with different versions from ELPA, and applying (package-initialize) early (first line in my .emacs) fixed. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: psycho_punch Subject: Re: (require 'org-publish) causes downgrade in org-version Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:53:48 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87oay2wsdr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bnu2wdgm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87d2eis34k.fsf@gmail.com> <878up69p35.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: psychopunch.me@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c203646429d204fb678a89 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36349) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu01G-0001aM-Rf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:53:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu01G-00071M-3g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:53:50 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d]:53694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wu01F-00071B-UU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:53:50 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r2so1888227igi.12 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 06:53:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878up69p35.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo" Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --001a11c203646429d204fb678a89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yup. That works, too. Thanks for all the help, everyone. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo < jorge.a.alfaro@gmail.com> wrote: > psycho_punch writes: > > > So I need to explicitly call (package-initialize) in init.el, probably > > one of the, if not the, first line? > > Yes, I had a similar issue with different versions from ELPA, and > applying (package-initialize) early (first line in my .emacs) fixed. > > > --001a11c203646429d204fb678a89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup. That works, too.

Thanks for all the help, ever= yone.


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo <jorge.a.= alfaro@gmail.com> wrote:
psycho_punch <psychopunchme@gmail.com> writes:

> So I need to explicitly call (package-initialize) in init.el, probably=
> one of the, if not the, first line?

Yes, I had a similar issue with different versions from ELPA, and
applying (package-initialize) early (first line in my .emacs) fixed.



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