From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Phil <pe@7d.nz>
Cc: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-babel-execute-src-block filters characters from :session *shell* output
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 20:05:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bk3fa7ap.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d3c8cce-b79d-43c2-baaa-459fea1ed3d9@7d.nz>
Phil <pe@7d.nz> writes:
> I'd like to add a few general remarks about *error status*.
> I'm starting to notice there are not much subprocesses
> that to do get called through =call-process= with
> ‘(REAL-DESTINATION ERROR-DESTINATION)’ kept as
> separate. You all know how useful stdin/out/err and
> the return codes are, but they're absent from Babel.
They are not.
See `org-babel-eval-error-notify'.
Not for sessions though.
> That's why a failed command will still provide a result
> — an empty array for instance, something that looks
> legit even when it's not. I had again this experience
> with =ob-http :pretty= and =ob-mongo= lastly: errors are
> silenced.
The API is there, as long as individual backends can separate stderr
from the rest.
> Comint reads and write from/to terminals with all
> three standard channels together. It's meant to
> provide requirements to communicate with non-POSIX
> terminals too. It's a great library but perhaps
> there's a need to specialize things further when
> dealing with one shell?
> So In Emacs, those specs would land either in one precise
> (possibly low-level) shell extension or a generic one that
> would once more care for the many idiosyncracies every one
> of them have.
It would be nice indeed, but it will be a huge work.
> Something I figured when dealing with ob-sql-session is
> that if several commands are given in one batch (what a
> babel source block is in many cases), they can either be
> all run until the end or be stopped when an error is
> met. In both cases, knowing the number of errors met is
> possible in one shell that do agree with the convention
> of returning a value for every command (or command line).
May you elaborate?
> Otherwise, a terminal "reader" has to reinterpret the
> results.
>
> [[info:elisp#Synchronous
> Processes][elisp#Synchronous Processes]] says :
>
> You can’t directly specify a buffer to put the
> error output in; that is too difficult to
> implement.
>
> Can someone explain why?
No idea. You better ask on emacs-devel.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-02 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-13 14:32 org-babel-execute-src-block filters characters from :session *shell* output Cook, Malcolm
2024-06-14 14:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-14 14:29 ` Cook, Malcolm
2024-06-15 13:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-16 12:47 ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-17 17:57 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-30 19:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-02 19:34 ` Phil
2024-07-02 20:05 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-07-03 21:07 ` Phil
2024-07-04 11:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-06 11:36 ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-06 15:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-09 7:54 ` Phil
2024-06-17 15:48 ` Cook, Malcolm
2024-06-17 18:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-17 22:40 ` Cook, Malcolm
2024-06-17 23:09 ` Cook, Malcolm
2024-06-19 14:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-30 19:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-06 11:39 ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-06 11:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-05 15:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-23 15:49 ` org-babel-execute-src-block filters characters from :session *shell* output AND Re: [BUG] conda doesn't work in ob-shell sessions Cook, Malcolm
2024-10-23 16:52 ` Cook, Malcolm
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