From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: Re: [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:53:25 -0600 Message-ID: <87aa8t10np.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87pqhrih3s.fsf@gmail.com> <30891.1319141196@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> <87fwinifqu.fsf@gmail.com> <32184.1319143892@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> <87zkgvgxe7.fsf@gmail.com> <1405.1319147324@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> <87zkgvfhra.fsf@gmail.com> <2127.1319148505@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> <87vcrjfgt1.fsf@gmail.com> <80sjmmvm60.fsf@somewhere.org> <4EA129DB.4070006@christianmoe.com> <8762ji5jr6.fsf@gmail.com> <4EA1D4F9.5010302@christianmoe.com> <4ea1de9c.67b4ec0a.553d.122a@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RHdv0-0005b1-Bn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:55:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RHdux-00083L-4I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:55:29 -0400 Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:41924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RHduw-0007vC-W0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:55:27 -0400 Received: by mail-iy0-f169.google.com with SMTP id f6so7387593iag.0 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira Cc: Sebastien Vauban , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, mail@christianmoe.com Darlan Cavalcante Moreira writes: > It's excellent that now babel understands multiple values in the "var" > property (I was one of the people that wanted this), but "There Is One More > Thing". > > Would it be feasible to inherit variables from parent sub-trees? > Effectively, I'd like to append new values in lower level sub-trees, but > AFAIK setting the var property in a sub-tree will still replace the value > set in the parent sub-tree. > Currently every new property specification entirely replaced previous specifications with the same name. > > That is, in the example below the level-2 sub-trees would not have the foo > variable passed to babel. > * Code with foo > :PROPERTIES: > :var: foo=1 > :END: > > ** Code only with bar > :PROPERTIES: > :var: bar=2 > :END: > src_block > ** Code only with baz > :PROPERTIES: > :var: baz=3 > :END: > src_block > > Maybe a special keyword, such as "inherit" (or "append") could be used to > incorporate variables defined in the parent sub-tree, such that the example > would become > * Code with foo > :PROPERTIES: > :var: foo=1 > :END: > > ** Code with foo and bar > :PROPERTIES: > :var: bar=2, inherit > :END: > src_block > ** Code with foo and baz > :PROPERTIES: > :var: baz=3, inherit > :END: > src_block > > This should not affect global variables and "inherit" would inherit > variables defined only in the parent sub-tree (unless it also contains the > inherit keyword). > > As a use case scenario, suppose I need to perform simulations for a few > different scenarios, each with small variations. This would allow me to > define common variables for a scenario in a higher level sub-tree and more > specific variables in the lower level sub-trees. > This sounds somewhat similar to my suggestion in reply to Rainer's email. Best -- Eric > > -- > Darlan Cavalcante > > > At Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:24:25 +0200, > Christian Moe wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, that works nicely, and should solve Rainer's problem. >> I haven't been able to think of anything else that can't be handled by >> properties. >> >> And I do think it's a good idea to winnow down the syntax a bit, even >> if things break. I just like to grumble. >> :-) >> >> Yours, >> Christian >> >> On 10/21/11 7:37 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: >> > Nice idea. This same issue with "var" arose when we first started >> > allowing header arguments to be specified inside subtree properties. >> > I've just implemented your suggestion so the following are now possible. >> > >> > #+PROPERTY: var foo=1, bar=2 >> > #+PROPERTY: cache yes >> > >> > #+begin_src emacs-lisp >> > (+ foo bar) >> > #+end_src >> > >> > #+results[be32e67491d4e92f75769aebe423c20ca01626fe]: >> > : 3 >> > >> > and >> > >> > #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var foo="this", bar="that" >> > (concat foo " " bar) >> > #+end_src >> > >> > #+results[3cde077efa81f1ca24a62ac264dbd5776b6e0054]: >> > : this that >> > >> > Thanks for the suggestion and I hope the above is a sufficient >> > replacement for the now-missing #+BABEL: syntax. >> > >> > Cheers -- Eric >> >> -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/