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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619970299; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=n2neZhwsY+9f8aYTO9hCi/cwIvuDNQA/2fHXdmgXZjQ=; b=LPngsBAC/Sx8kkeLFV32uRvu/aakzBrLNdOGZScOebiqpjw9xauDqEjNNmIEF6+Cq7D0zR OrP/Oa447or1681fXIy1MTZhWbmCiC39ww9eoQcupVdrJG5TDZZ4MdxVcfJ358XfMvYmd+ QhoZ3P4WIACd4AGsQ2Ep4ORpK527PubsakUofoJxysNt1pHHCtEL7YEIyuCuvznjLzUfvv VVKZu9jp9hPA7vRg0KiW7b0Kq6cu+jLsXdH5BavsILqxP/+133BcepS7J1JjpDo8/5Qyfb jeVBu2DpqxFJhyUpoZw9Fqlki5zUR1Xla0VwDSasIT/3RRx5SD6fQiF1RaaOLQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619970299; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=hHsZ0hgILF4Gnf1eiGebUileaE9j4XaHnGlwQQSCLLlw3Xq2txyKx0XtvvDV/HRVH75Og0 C5uZaLL0SKnmLcpb0KtopAYPQaXnEVWNAY98ag0PUahsOPE4Mzhc1oklnYpEUTERajvHZT 2RABD5PeyGKl0Z2SbimesoAEm1vw4BGih5B6nwKPntbsHIBp7Vd4isPL78V7A8cFqYxtWI Zi9TkFHZvA6pEPWa6Kgdq+OKhtQvU2Nxaxzuh3Ti4flNaaI677jwrYR7Z4AGf0DhcWrNvI raPMqJ27jo3P0SiYyEs0ZuQUiPAYZLSoFLMwQdOctnV9MjmlQZQc7u9lh9lz5Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=wrr6BPw2; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.14 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=wrr6BPw2; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=yandex.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 79B8426F82 X-Spam-Score: 1.14 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: vF2tSE/pHEBo >>>>> Detlef Steuer writes: > Am Sun, 02 May 2021 08:09:02 +0200 schrieb Bastien : >> Various discussions convinced me that `org-adapt-indentation' >> should be nil by default. >> >> With `electric-indent-mode' being activated by default in Emacs, >> the current behavior is that RET after a headline moves the point >> below the beginning of this headline, not the beginning of the >> line, which might surprise users. >> >> Indentation is quite sensitive: what do you think of setting a >> new default value of nil for `org-adapt-indentation' in Org 9.5? >> > I would like it. Not me. I most certainly would not appreciate a change in the default.