Effort Estimates

Effort Estimates

[R C]

Hi,
 I am new to using org-mode. I have read the section on effort estimates, but I am not quite clear on the implementation. I am particularly interested  in using org-mode to compare estimated times to clocked times for tasks, and in getting a summary of the estimated work effort for each day in agenda view. I would appreciate it if anyone using org-mode for these purposes would be willing to provide specifics of their implementation.
Thanks.
Recif

Re: Effort Estimates

[Bernt Hansen]

R C <recif@yahoo.com> writes:

> Hi, I am new to using org-mode. I have read the section on effort
> estimates, but I am not quite clear on the implementation. I am
> particularly interested in using org-mode to compare estimated times
> to clocked times for tasks, and in getting a summary of the estimated
> work effort for each day in agenda view. I would appreciate it if
> anyone using org-mode for these purposes would be willing to provide
> specifics of their implementation.  Thanks.  Recif

The following article on the mailing list is what got me started with
column view.  I use it all the time now.

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5134

Since then Carsten has added a clock summary to the table so I can
quickly get a summary of the tasks, estimated times, and time spent on
the project.

I clock everything.

I use the same column view in all of my org files.  I've set this
globally in my .emacs as

,----[ .emacs ]
| (setq org-global-properties '(("Effort_ALL" . "0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00 16:00 24:00 32:00 40:00 60:00 80:00 120:00")))
| (setq org-columns-default-format "%40ITEM(Task) %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM")
`----

This lets me quickly enter effort values for a subtree.  Put the cursor
on a task, C-c C-x C-c to enter column mode, move the cursor to the
effort column, and enter effort values with S-right, S-left, or e and
some value.  This creates :PROPERTY: drawers on the fly if required to
store the effort amounts.

I use column view to look at and compare effort amounts with actual time
spent.  If I need to save the report permanently I insert a column
report with  C-u C-c C-x r RET

I also use the clock report in the agenda to get a summary for what I've
spent time on today.  C-c a a R.  Okay that's a little white lie.
I don't use this key combination anymore because I have it turned on by
default so every time my agenda displays the clock report is displayed.

,----[ .emacs ]
| (setq org-agenda-start-with-clockreport-mode t)
`----

I manually stop and start my clock.  I have the following setting to
support that mode of operation:

,----[ .emacs ]
| (setq org-clock-out-when-done nil)
`----

This means I can mark a task DONE and the clock keeps going.  With
recent changes I can also refile the task with C-c C-w and the clock
moves with it which is a great feature.  This helps a lot when I
accidentally move a task to a DONE todo keyword by mistake and I want to
put it back.  My clock just keeps running.

Hopefully some of this helps.  Feel free to ask questions if any of it
is confusing.  I find the best way to try something out is to create a
throw-away org file /tmp and play with the features there.  When I'm
comfortable with the way things work I add this workflow to my regular
org files.

Interacting with org seems to be a life-long endeavour for me - I keep
tuning things (yes I have an "* ONGOING Org Mode Tuning" task :) which
I'm currently clocking while writing up this email.

Thanks again for the wonderful tool that is org-mode Carsten and
everyone else on the list that has helped to make org-mode what it is
today!

Best regards,
Bernt

Re: Effort Estimates

[R C]

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:

> From: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>
> Subject: Re: Effort Estimates
> To: recif@yahoo.com
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:32 PM
> R C <recif@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > Hi, I am new to using org-mode. I have read the
> section on effort
> > estimates, but I am not quite clear on the
> implementation. I am
> > particularly interested in using org-mode to compare
> estimated times
> > to clocked times for tasks, and in getting a summary
> of the estimated
> > work effort for each day in agenda view. I would
> appreciate it if
> > anyone using org-mode for these purposes would be
> willing to provide
> > specifics of their implementation.  Thanks.  Recif
> 
> The following article on the mailing list is what got me
> started with
> column view.  I use it all the time now.
> 
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5134
> 
> Since then Carsten has added a clock summary to the table
> so I can
> quickly get a summary of the tasks, estimated times, and
> time spent on
> the project.
> 
> I clock everything.
> 
> I use the same column view in all of my org files. 
> I've set this
> globally in my .emacs as
> 
> ,----[ .emacs ]
> | (setq org-global-properties '(("Effort_ALL"
> . "0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00
> 16:00 24:00 32:00 40:00 60:00 80:00 120:00")))
> | (setq org-columns-default-format "%40ITEM(Task)
> %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM")
> `----
> 
> This lets me quickly enter effort values for a subtree. 
> Put the cursor
> on a task, C-c C-x C-c to enter column mode, move the
> cursor to the
> effort column, and enter effort values with S-right,
> S-left, or e and
> some value.  This creates :PROPERTY: drawers on the fly if
> required to
> store the effort amounts.
> 
> I use column view to look at and compare effort amounts
> with actual time
> spent.  If I need to save the report permanently I insert a
> column
> report with  C-u C-c C-x r RET
> 
> I also use the clock report in the agenda to get a summary
> for what I've
> spent time on today.  C-c a a R.  Okay that's a little
> white lie.
> I don't use this key combination anymore because I have
> it turned on by
> default so every time my agenda displays the clock report
> is displayed.
> 
> ,----[ .emacs ]
> | (setq org-agenda-start-with-clockreport-mode t)
> `----
> 
> I manually stop and start my clock.  I have the following
> setting to
> support that mode of operation:
> 
> ,----[ .emacs ]
> | (setq org-clock-out-when-done nil)
> `----
> 
> This means I can mark a task DONE and the clock keeps
> going.  With
> recent changes I can also refile the task with C-c C-w and
> the clock
> moves with it which is a great feature.  This helps a lot
> when I
> accidentally move a task to a DONE todo keyword by mistake
> and I want to
> put it back.  My clock just keeps running.
> 
> Hopefully some of this helps.  Feel free to ask questions
> if any of it
> is confusing.  I find the best way to try something out is
> to create a
> throw-away org file /tmp and play with the features there. 
> When I'm
> comfortable with the way things work I add this workflow to
> my regular
> org files.
> 
> Interacting with org seems to be a life-long endeavour for
> me - I keep
> tuning things (yes I have an "* ONGOING Org Mode
> Tuning" task :) which
> I'm currently clocking while writing up this email.
> 
> Thanks again for the wonderful tool that is org-mode
> Carsten and
> everyone else on the list that has helped to make org-mode
> what it is
> today!
> 
> Best regards,
> Bernt

Hi,
 This does exactly what I was looking for. I agree with you about org-mode. It provides powerful tools for time-tracking, project-management, information-organization and access, etc., and replaces for me, at least, multiple applications that were difficult to coordinate.
Thanks very much for your assistance.

Recif