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Exactly. And this is why I am not happy about org being modified to enable this. Make the path of least resistance the most attractive: > In many ways, workbooks are being treated like a poor persons slow > inefficient database with a really poor interface. And also why I suggested that it would be good to have some type of database functionality in org. Well, we do already in the form of properties. I use these, with column view, all the time, but maybe we need to think about how such are exported and encourage its use? -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.4-254-g37749c