TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[Timothy]

Hi Everyone,

Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) I've just
published the July post. I've decided to focus entirely on citations
this time :)

Should this be of interest, here it is:
https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Enjoy!

--
Timothy

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[tomas]

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On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 04:29:09AM +0800, Timothy wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) I've just
> published the July post. I've decided to focus entirely on citations
> this time :)
> 
> Should this be of interest, here it is:
> https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Wow. Thanks!

(Note that I'm not the target audience of this feature, but I'm
nevertheless enjoying thoroughly your blog post!)

Cheers
 - t

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Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[Juan Manuel Macías]

Hi Timothy,

Timothy writes:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) I've just
> published the July post. I've decided to focus entirely on citations
> this time :)
>
> Should this be of interest, here it is:
> https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Thank you very much for this comprehensive and very useful post: the
best way to start my summer vacation! :-)

And many thanks to those who have developed this interesting and
promising new Org feature.

Best regards,

Juan Manuel 

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[Colin Baxter]

Hello Timothy,
>>>>> Timothy  <tecosaur@gmail.com> writes:

    > Hi Everyone, Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This
    > Month In Org) I've just published the July post. I've decided to
    > focus entirely on citations this time :)

    > Should this be of interest, here it is:
    > https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Nice work. For me, however, I'm still at a loss, although I confess I've
not kept up to-date with the org citation developments.

1. I don't understand the relation between the new cite syntax and the old
org-mode [[ bib:key ]]. Perhaps there isn't one.

2. How is an =org-link-abbrev-alist= related to a global and/or local
#+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my =org-link-abbrev-alist=
the org-export (to pdf) still does not find a different local bibliography
file. (I have org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.)

I think I need to read the manual!

Anyway, thanks to everyone for this new org citation.

Best wishes,

Colin.

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[Timothy]

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Hi Colin,

> Nice work. For me, however, I’m still at a loss, although I confess I’ve
> not kept up to-date with the org citation developments.
>
> 1. I don’t understand the relation between the new cite syntax and the old
> org-mode . Perhaps there isn’t one.
>
> 2. How is an `org-link-abbrev-alist' related to a global and/or local
> #+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my `org-link-abbrev-alist'
> the org-export (to pdf) still does not find a different local bibliography
> file. (I have org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.)

I think the confusion you have lies in the similarity between the link syntax
and cite syntax — the new `[cite:@key]' citations are *not* links.
Hopefully that makes them a this a bit clearer :)

All the best,
Timothy

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[Colin Baxter]

>>>>> Timothy  <tecosaur@gmail.com> writes:

    > Hi Colin,
    >> Nice work. For me, however, I’m still at a loss, although I
    >> confess I’ve not kept up to-date with the org citation
    >> developments.
    >> 
    >> 1. I don’t understand the relation between the new cite syntax
    >> and the old org-mode . Perhaps there isn’t one.
    >> 
    >> 2. How is an `org-link-abbrev-alist' related to a global and/or
    >> local #+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my
    >> `org-link-abbrev-alist' the org-export (to pdf) still does not
    >> find a different local bibliography file. (I have
    >> org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.)

    > I think the confusion you have lies in the similarity between the
    > link syntax and cite syntax — the new `[cite:@key]' citations are
    > *not* links.  Hopefully that makes them a this a bit clearer :)

Ah! Now that's helpful - thanks.

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[Rudolf Adamkovič]

Does anyone know when this might land in Emacs’ master branch?

R+

Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) 
> I've just published the July post. I've decided to focus 
> entirely on citations this time :) 
> 
> Should this be of interest, here it is: 
> https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html 
> 
> Enjoy! 
> 
> -- Timothy 
> 

-- 
Logic is a science of the necessary laws of thought, without which 
no employment of the understanding and the reason takes place. -- 
Immanuel Kant, 1785  Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> 
Studenohorská 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia  [he/him]

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[András Simonyi]

Most of the functionality described in the piece is already in the
master branch.

best regards,
András

On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 12:36, Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know when this might land in Emacs’ master branch?

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[Eric S Fraga]

On Tuesday,  3 Aug 2021 at 12:10, András Simonyi wrote:
> Most of the functionality described in the piece is already in the
> master branch.

No, not quite.  These latest updates are in the master branch of org
mode but they have not yet been incorporate into the master branch of
Emacs itself. 

-- 
: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.6-607-g185706
: Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096

Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations

[András Simonyi]

Absolutely, thanks for the correction -- I meant Org's master, even
though the question was clearly about Emacs's.
best regards,
András

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:23, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday,  3 Aug 2021 at 12:10, András Simonyi wrote:
> > Most of the functionality described in the piece is already in the
> > master branch.
>
> No, not quite.  These latest updates are in the master branch of org
> mode but they have not yet been incorporate into the master branch of
> Emacs itself.
>
> --
> : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.6-607-g185706
> : Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096