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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Timothy , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Denis Maier Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638471883; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=fQpWaZ1E67fTrk8QwZ8yLhy96HqwsScdzN9Yc92lN14=; b=au84651yHN4K1FT5aIOD1j48taJzzsWpywcJKoXdDGKFNeuawtBWMTJ0+79WWvzbjv0SCU xyHTNJFRnmvHAlKYXdGnb9AWS5Qb43vISNxRL11D3qcGn0y9F8wY4lNiAY0TY8q9HoPkiL O9WcLjpu12ZKLff9loQvBYj8R7jkB5/VApc8Y5xsyeoEurSdOhUfuDoUpztvV54BvRaDAN DuejzF0njNjzQMmT8wqpzXq+bdxgqzOEiDU9CPxV69yJ+9YEt5fTBgwB2hyDaLEqYsi8XC vqKGUl0b9rE2YwtpUnuwhwkJx+mW/Xq2W1MX+1AnBAkHaNbpRwH1gUNwxoLJMw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638471883; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=t6prN6fTjIBn/ky6XZ8lbO9TsKczaAtQhhBYyglnNlyOkdUK+KcBDQ9sv/mGl5mGRP6ZfD 5UdPR16Y7jYcrmj0P/n4aANhvO6f3xrwAkk3IA7mch//p9KSDe/eWgOmMNzYHuChiYdfqo xBdjsa+2NN9S1R9VwUH14V21dkk90Rf8TNwYJkPYS9kvLwWuMP2x96MNxl8LI+tV6SJx2E AO3hfN4CZpxGfUA5wn+K86+lOx5KPQhMuVeFm4oUEEQOFRYWwvUbrvutG9oX7Vv9zssOur haPyzDIFAk7WOp1q5n5o5h20igVmL42hQ5y7LOpn/8Xn5KXgid7Kao9vr7TsuA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 38190157B1 X-Spam-Score: -3.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: O5QaK94gJim0 Hello, Ihor Radchenko writes: > Denis Maier writes: > >> As for suggestions: If just using /intra/word creates ambiguities, what >> about the asciidoc solution? So //intra//word? > > I do like this idea. > > Though I would also like to hear Nicolas' opinion. I sympathize to the idea of intra-word emphasis, but the syntax above is going to cause some ambiguous situations. I do think the marker + zero-width space is one way to go. We could, as an improvement, consider zero-width spaces around emphasis markers to be part of the markup, and replace them along during export. Another solution is to introduce a less-subtle, but less prone to ambiguity, syntax, e.g., /{bold}/markup or /|bold|/markup where /{ }/ or /| |/ become "extended" markers. I find zero-with spaces solution much more elegant. It also doesn't change current syntax, which is a big advantage. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou