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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Shankar Rao <shankar.rao@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Gustavo Barros <gusbrs.2016@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add mode for automatically unhiding emphasis markers in the current region
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 09:32:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dvus2mx.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGEgU=hxBqBp=J6dt5+YsitG8FZm9__o4PMNXC85cxReU3U_fg@mail.gmail.com> (Shankar Rao's message of "Wed, 24 Jun 2020 18:34:31 +0200")

Hello,

Shankar Rao <shankar.rao@gmail.com> writes:

> I agree that if org-emphasize handled marker visibility states in a DWIM
> fashion, then a user should not need to display them, but why do you
> believe they shouldn't have the opportunity, especially given that this is
> the exact behavior of prettify-symbols-mode?

I wrote my message in a hurry. Let me clarify it.

I'm only talking about built-in tooling. I don't mind if a user have the
feature you're proposing, of course, as it is not wrong per se.

However, I believe that's not the best solution for the problem we're
trying to solve. I think there's an opportunity to provide something
smarter, and less intrusive, to handle emphasis, which doesn't involve
messing with `post-command-hook'.

> Could you walk me through, in your proposed DWIM system, how a user should
> be able to remove or change emphasis markers after they are rendered and
> hidden?

Like in a word processor, you don't need to see the markers to operate
on them. I don't think the usual "toggle" model is appropriate, however.
I suggest to use two commands: one for deleting the markers around point
or within active region, and one for inserting markers or extending
existing ones.

Allow me to polish up my draft a bit, so we can compare the benefits of
each system.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-26  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-01 14:14 [PATCH] Add mode for automatically unhiding emphasis markers in the current region Shankar Rao
2020-06-01 15:33 ` Shankar Rao
2020-06-22  5:40   ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-22 11:25     ` Gustavo Barros
2020-06-23  0:07       ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-24 12:53         ` Shankar Rao
2020-06-24 13:49           ` Gustavo Barros
2020-06-24 15:46             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-06-24 16:34               ` Shankar Rao
2020-06-26  7:32                 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2020-07-03 15:19                   ` Shankar Rao
2020-07-05 10:50                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-07-05 20:49                       ` Gustavo Barros
2020-07-06 14:01                         ` Gustavo Barros
2020-07-07 15:57                       ` Shankar Rao
2020-06-24 17:27               ` Gustavo Barros

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