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Those packages are early accessibility experiments, and are /not/ intended = for wider use. See the top of the README: =E2=80=9CPrototype. Not suitable for production=E2=80=9D. The auth= or themselves said in a [2020 tex.SE answer] that: `accessibility' was developed and published back in 2007 as a proof o= f concept for some of the KOMA document styles. I got hold of the files from the au= thor in 2019 and took over maintenance with her permission. I tidied up the p= ackage enough to get it to CTAN, but didn=E2=80=99t update the functionality= . I also published it to GitHub to get some feedback on it. It seems to have worked well in 2007 for a few test cases. Unfortunat= ely it now fails every test case, and it looks like needing some serious efforts= to fix. Because of this I no longer think that accessibility is fit for purpo= se. They also go on to make a comment I=E2=80=99ve seen a few times from the pe= ople working on the latex3 accessibility project =E2=80=94 basically that in order to ac= tually get a /good/ solution, we=E2=80=99ll need to wait till support is baked into th= e LaTeX core. If we=E2=80=99re desperate to add this, we=E2=80=99ll likely want to look a= t `tagpdf' which is written by someone working on the latex3 accessibility project. It is appar= ently capable of passing PCA3, however according to the author: `tagpdf' hasn=E2=80=99t been written as a user package but to allow e= xperiments and tests and to help to identify missing interfaces in the kernel and in packa= ges. It can change at any time in incompatible ways and it requires some skills t= o use it. So, while it may be a particularly boring answer, I think =E2=80=9Cwait and= see=E2=80=9D is our current best bet. All the best, Timothy [2020 tex.SE answer] --=-=-=--