From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id YAtbOZlU0mPGDQAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:23:22 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id qPwcOZlU0mNX6QAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:23:21 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 963C5389A1 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:23:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pKzOz-0003Py-NW; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:22:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pKzOq-0003Lt-M7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:22:39 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pKzOp-0002EN-0c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:22:32 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E559424085B for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:22:27 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1674728548; bh=tV1NzdBjRxBuTnYZ/ZKuK9fC/Fwgiep7JzFLSIVi5sE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=CReXb4Z4Z74lUduYPP//6Dp4YGvQ10ygTjzSq3Fml4wdEJVFUIgnmrlVidUyaeiau uo2lnt5ke5JSfIGSdeCXFpiAWYSb+mz9FfjIf5tJ/8flaMxoQK2QgmdY9Qtr1qaHb8 Rev9RGP5WUJUPBDyWEybRkNqGpzgQTxDd60dVmE14QLI8R/aurr6gWzZ3TX9BMVbzK 3tKlQBx0j4AIy0/IT7n0DuxP5+jb1pOuGUUv19qBGl4Rgqu/KngH0MFq0C3Je9iYt9 UiILZi6WZ+IuzyL+aqYbPO3WpLzjGGuPUJPoIkA9SqLFJtZsg8fGsp2DNr6OfxCOUu hUVw4MlDX7pHg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4P2cGC0RfMz6tmv; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:22:26 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: rms@gnu.org Cc: Tim Cross , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql (was: [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena) In-Reply-To: References: <874jsqbvfq.fsf@kraus.my> <87358an35i.fsf@localhost> <63c5b8db.170a0220.e466f.2573@mx.google.com> <87o7qxmr6y.fsf@kraus.my> <87fsc9iifs.fsf@localhost> <87y1pte7x1.fsf@localhost> <63cef162.170a0220.faa08.09ef@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:22:59 +0000 Message-ID: <877cx9wq64.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1674728601; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JyLBYHwVwWj9s0jwzlcRaFZa2YwOO1eCFA8coa3ygNsMGjgIWpXT5pcR4K2tNyRKrmKgIk FYrtOIlm9zO/ovsDZRgo61AxbKClAAmS5heDnlVA+clFL1Q7poW6DlJQPLRC3LCfrZrw1Y 9VMG6IDTeaLyyVW2E0TJkoj5wfLMxk0aUFZilVwFhuiEWd26npClJ3IplOKuDS6CLRVrOW psaf1CujaKpM59N7Iko4rdW/Hqy7Od1n+FBErXXXuRFxjDHDxqQzTiYMe5+R+i801Qf2/1 l9KaZXvtEsDS6tFi5MQudGU/mFag2at3r+h/D8PTPLe3EIbEGg3B+j7WnuYCiQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1674728601; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=JUavg8B1HZ3rXnBpKLO/2zDSGup2YGeX42IL9Mh56OI=; b=l4GbtdRu7rIw8csqmlCAW8NuPYxDBeAPGMJfGCCy63iFASPLf+y9s1tixGwMVjVBbK3vhi G793MMHY0UbfGSzr3PAVOwadt7Io+KMl12NCS4vHS1jfRaLT5IS4kLCtskTSDPTI0V0TsO ke7fQJMVz2DzUtE0A8U4aGhUVy2zImBlj77nFfPScmIU8uJfBIzAgRXSIbERzldlZLRNUV z3b8mLgVHcCNkkRUGjzxZ/Mb+iRl1BUr8OmlN6KlJ+Ebv7QcezxTL92tMgv1G3U3AuaVQ+ Ql5OLYDOJx5JnXdfX2U6gVNCRJpMP4bmVh5/10nhdyFnWiFp+e/wVt1/xXVPQw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=CReXb4Z4; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 963C5389A1 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=CReXb4Z4; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net X-TUID: EYbpnHXkjp9s Richard Stallman writes: > Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > > It is hard to define "well known". For me, oracle and mssql databases > > are well-known (just by company name), while saphana and vertica are > > not. > > I have never heard of saphana or vertica, which suggests that maybe > this is an issue. However, I don't know the database field, so I > am the wrong one to judge. Would it then make sense to note the reasons why we support one or another non-free software in a separate file like etc/NON-FREE-SUPPORT? Non-free software popular now may not be popular in future, and thus it will become not ethical to support it then. Also, what about Emacs supporting MS DOS and old versions of Windows? Do they still qualify as popular software? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at