From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien_Vauban?= Subject: Org-mode collaborative (multiple users working on the same set of files) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:33:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87631mxbch.fsf_-_@mundaneum.com> References: <4C0FE13B.3040002@ccbr.umn.edu> <87r5kfpw9k.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4C103369.5030008@ccbr.umn.edu> <87631rk9ja.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <871vcfk0kh.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <87ocfjtjvr.fsf_-_@mundaneum.com> <87631op5uw.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Hi Eric, Benjamen, Daniel, and all, >>> [...] What do you think about all this? Thanks to get the debate launched. I was fearing to stay alone=C2=A0;-) Regarding the clocked times: >> I just read this and before nobody answers, I'll give you a small POC >> that should work for you. As far as I can tell it doesn't break >> anything. >> >> (defun org-clock-out-mark-clock () >> (unless remove (insert (format " (%s)" user-full-name)))) >> >> (add-hook 'org-clock-out-hook 'org-clock-out-mark-clock) Yep, this seems to work perfectly -- did not catch any conflict yet, but us= age time still low. Example results: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- * My sub-project :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2010-06-14 Mon 09:15]--[2010-06-14 Mon 10:11] =3D> 0:56 (Sebasti= en Vauban) - Test. :END: --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Your proposed format seems nice to me. Regarding other features, like state changes: >> I [...] ask for [...] an identifier (something like `org-user-identifier= ') >> to be added to the clock lines, so that we can filter based on the user, >> when multiple people have clocked in the same documents. > > [...] I have been using org-mode files as a point of collaboration on a > couple of projects (including org-babel [1]) and I think a generalization= of > something like your proposed `org-user-identifier' variable could be very > useful for many of the org meta-data items associated with headlines. Thanks for adding this in the loop. Of course, same combat... > For example, it would be great to record the user responsible for every > TODO state change, so that something like > > ** DONE Org-babel should work well when indented > - State "DONE" from "TODO" [2010-06-10 Thu 15:48] > > would instead be > > ** DONE Org-babel should work well when indented > - State "DONE" from "TODO" by eschulte [2010-06-10= Thu 15:48] That'd be great. I now dream of the ability to get a "revision history" to = be easily inserted at the begin of a document, like all pros do. > I think this would be very helpful, and anything that encourages the > spread of Org-mode usage through co-workers is a big win. I am sure this is a *must* for collaborative work, for being able to spread the word. And I'm sure we're very close to get it -- like the above proposition of Benjamen. But, for being useful, it absolutely needs to be in the common base of Org,= as default behavior. If I need all my co-workers to add my specifics to their = Org customization, it's lost. Best regards and thanks for your ideas. Seb --=20 S=C3=A9bastien Vauban _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode