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I can't think of a standard markup for > de-emphasis. You could imply it with color perhaps, e.g. some shade of > grey, or size by making it smaller. At least for LaTex/HTML, both of > those can be done. You would either need to use something like a > macro, or a link for something like that I think. The problem is that the concept of nested emphasis only works in LaTeX. I agree that a macro would be a good solution, putting the argument in 'normal' text. An approximation could be: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (defun macro-no-emph (arg) (let* ((backend org-export-current-backend)) (cond ((eq org-export-current-backend 'latex) (concat "@@latex:{\\normalfont @@" arg "@@latex:}@@")) ((eq org-export-current-backend 'html) (concat "@@html:@@" arg "@@html:@@")) ((eq org-export-current-backend 'odt) ;; a character style `normal' must be definded for odt (concat "@@odt:@@" arg "@@odt:@@"))))) (setq org-export-global-macros '(("noemph" . "(eval (mi-macro-emph $1))"))) #+end_src /foo {{{noemph(bar)}}} baz/