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Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:26:53 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Reproducible work with natively compiled Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <87msqxyxhp.fsf@localhost> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 14:26:51 +0000 Message-ID: <875xxlylw4.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.50 X-Spam-Score: -6.50 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 16403332A5 X-TUID: fkctAXJUF2Wi Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > Bluntly speaking, yes. There is this instance not too long ago where we had the slow down and I was trying to isolate the source. One of my possible suspects was that I might not have the right version of the eln file, because the creation timestamp was seeing with ls-l really made me doubt and I needed a state I could understand. Many things could cause it. For example, I sometimes get very bad slowdowns unless I do make bootstrap on my Emacs master build. I conclude that cleaning .eln files, especially outside the Org git repo folder, is not something we need. (until there is an evidence that we do need such a cleanup) I think that we can still keep make native exclusively for the purposes of testing native compilation in case if it behaves funnily. Canceled. I only committed the changes to make help output. https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=67a8117ca -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at