* latex export - skipping lvls breaks export @ 2010-06-21 17:52 Sebastian Hofer 2010-06-22 9:51 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Hofer @ 2010-06-21 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi, I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. Is there a reason for this or could this be changed easily? If so I would appreciate it a lot! Example: * Section ** Subsection *** Subsubsection * Section *** Subsubsection * Section exports to \section{Section} \subsection{Subsection} \subsubsection{Subsubsection} \section{Section} \section{Section} TIA Sebastian ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export 2010-06-21 17:52 latex export - skipping lvls breaks export Sebastian Hofer @ 2010-06-22 9:51 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 2010-06-22 11:10 ` Sebastian Hofer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2010-06-22 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastian Hofer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com> writes: > I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. nice! > I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure > (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. > Is there a reason for this IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, I can't find the citation in the list archive) > or could this be changed easily? IMHO skipping a level it's <Spock voice> a bit illogical ;-) cheers, Giovanni ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export 2010-06-22 9:51 ` Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2010-06-22 11:10 ` Sebastian Hofer 2010-06-22 12:51 ` Robert Hennig 2010-06-22 14:41 ` Nick Dokos 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Hofer @ 2010-06-22 11:10 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Sebastian Hofer, emacs-orgmode At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > > Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com> writes: > > > I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. > nice! > > I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure > > (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. > > Is there a reason for this > IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. > (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, > I can't find the citation in the list archive) > > > or could this be changed easily? > IMHO skipping a level it's <Spock voice> a bit illogical > ;-) I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to decide himself or herself to skip a level. Cheers, Sebastian ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export 2010-06-22 11:10 ` Sebastian Hofer @ 2010-06-22 12:51 ` Robert Hennig 2010-06-22 13:06 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-06-22 14:41 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Robert Hennig @ 2010-06-22 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Sebastian Hofer wrote: > At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, > Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: >> Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. >> nice! >>> I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure >>> (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. >>> Is there a reason for this >> IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. >> (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, >> I can't find the citation in the list archive) >> >>> or could this be changed easily? >> IMHO skipping a level it's <Spock voice> a bit illogical >> ;-) > I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. > Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to decide himself or herself to skip a level. > > Cheers, > Sebastian > I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents has a odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the structure could be possible. One reason to have this working is if you want to have a itemized outline at several levels. Best regards, Robert Hennig > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export 2010-06-22 12:51 ` Robert Hennig @ 2010-06-22 13:06 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-06-22 14:40 ` Sébastien Vauban 2010-06-22 14:43 ` Sebastian Hofer 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-06-22 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Hennig; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Robert Hennig wrote: > Sebastian Hofer wrote: >> At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, >> Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: >>> Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. >>> nice! >>>> I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure >>>> (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. >>>> Is there a reason for this >>> IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. >>> (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, >>> unfortunately, >>> I can't find the citation in the list archive) >>> >>>> or could this be changed easily? >>> IMHO skipping a level it's <Spock voice> a bit illogical >>> ;-) >> I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. >> Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to >> decide himself or herself to skip a level. >> >> Cheers, >> Sebastian >> > > I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents > has a > odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the > structure could be possible. One reason to have this working is > if you want to have a itemized outline at several levels. I have nothing against skipping levels - the HTML exporter allows it. But, the LaTeX exporter does not. If someone can come up with a good patch, I'd consider putting it in. The patch may not be trivial though... - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export 2010-06-22 13:06 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2010-06-22 14:40 ` Sébastien Vauban 2010-06-22 14:43 ` Sebastian Hofer 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-06-22 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi all, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Robert Hennig wrote: >> Sebastian Hofer wrote: >>> Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: >>>> Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: >>>>> >>>>> I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure (cf. example >>>>> below) it is not exported to latex. Is there a reason for this? >>>> >>>> IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. >>>> >>>> IMHO skipping a level it's <Spock voice> a bit illogical >>> >>> I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. >> >> I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents has a >> odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the structure >> could be possible. > > I have nothing against skipping levels - the HTML exporter allows it. But, > the LaTeX exporter does not. If someone can come up with a good patch, I'd > consider putting it in. The patch may not be trivial though... Just for the sake of completeness, here is another (very) good reason to allow such a thing: for Beamer, with the sidebar outer theme, which allows you to see, on every slide, where you are in the TOC (up to 2 levels). If you have such a TOC: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 1. Intro 2. The meat 1. Why? 2. Why not? 3. Conclusion --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- and have frames level beginning at 3, you would have in Org: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- * Intro *** Introduction This is first slide. * The meat ** Why? *** Why to do this? Second slide. ** Why not? *** Why not to do this? Third slide. * Conclusion *** Conclusion Last slide. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- So, the solutions are: 1. To allow for skipped levels -> Sidebar is exactly as it should. 2. Not to export skipped levels -> You need to insert a level-2 for the Introduction and Conclusion a. Empty title (such as `** ') -> Empty space in the TOC displayed in the sidebar -> Bad! b. Repeat the title of level-1 -> Not nice... So, allowing for skipped levels seems the only nice way for me. Did you follow me? Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export 2010-06-22 13:06 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-06-22 14:40 ` Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-06-22 14:43 ` Sebastian Hofer 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Hofer @ 2010-06-22 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: emacs-orgmode At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:06:08 +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Robert Hennig wrote: > > > Sebastian Hofer wrote: > >> At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, > >> Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > >>> Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com> writes: > >>> > >>>> I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. > >>> nice! > >>>> I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure > >>>> (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. > >>>> Is there a reason for this > >>> IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. > >>> (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, > >>> unfortunately, > >>> I can't find the citation in the list archive) > >>> > >>>> or could this be changed easily? > >>> IMHO skipping a level it's <Spock voice> a bit illogical > >>> ;-) > >> I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. > >> Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to > >> decide himself or herself to skip a level. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Sebastian > >> > > > > I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents > > has a > > odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the > > structure could be possible. One reason to have this working is > > if you want to have a itemized outline at several levels. > > > I have nothing against skipping levels - the HTML exporter > allows it. But, the LaTeX exporter does not. If someone can > come up with a good patch, I'd consider putting it in. The > patch may not be trivial though... > I will try to come up with one, but I'm not sure I can do it as my lisp skills are still quite basic. So if anyone else wants to take a shot at this, I'm thankful for any help! Thanks for the clarification though! Cheers, Sebastian ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export 2010-06-22 11:10 ` Sebastian Hofer 2010-06-22 12:51 ` Robert Hennig @ 2010-06-22 14:41 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2010-06-22 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastian Hofer; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com> wrote: > At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, > Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > > > > Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. > > nice! > > > I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure > > > (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. > > > Is there a reason for this > > IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. > > (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, > > I can't find the citation in the list archive) > > > > > or could this be changed easily? > > IMHO skipping a level it's <Spock voice> a bit illogical > > ;-) > I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. > Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to decide himself or herself to skip a level. > If the outline tree were a real tree, skipping a level would be equivalent to chopping out a node somewhere in the middle. Would you expect the tree to stay intact? Tongue-firmly-in-cheek-ly yours, Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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