From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:22:43 +0200 Message-ID: <8738ukow64.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87a9ovye43.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppxoqhx1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTuEB-000782-Ix for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:22:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTuEA-000895-C1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:22:47 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]:48481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTuEA-00088y-5K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:22:46 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id z53so5120864wey.23 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:22:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ppxoqhx1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:47:38 +0800") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric Abrahamsen writes: > It's also been a pleasure to witness the surprisingly successful > marriage of two different coding styles: Bastien's damn-the-torpedoes > patch-the-SOB-and-get-it-out-the-door approach, matched with Nicolas' > return to first principles: structure and cleanliness. I'm quite > convinced that the two approaches have been equally essential to Org > mode's current success (and advance apologies for any perceived > mischaracterizations!). Yeah. Let me quote Jamie Zawinski's interview from "Coders at work": Zawinski: [...] It's great to rewrite your code and make it cleaner and by the third time it'll actually be pretty. But that's not the point---you're not here to write code, you're here to ship products. Seibel: Folks engaged in overengineering usually say, "Well, once I've got this framework in place everything will be easy after that. So I'll actually save time by doing this. Zawinski: That is always the theory. Seibel: And there are times when that theory is true, when someone has good sense and the framework isn't too elaborate, and it does save time. I actually agree with both points of view, especially with the last sentence. And it's easy to play jwz when you can trust someone for playing the other role :) -- Bastien