From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Lawrence Subject: Re: Citation syntax: a revised proposal Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:59:05 -0800 Message-ID: <873865rdwm.fsf@berkeley.edu> References: <87k2zjnc0e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87zj8fjdnv.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <873867m4kg.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87fva7jaly.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87zj8fc7w5.fsf@gmail.com> <87bnkvj85w.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87wq3jc6dc.fsf@gmail.com> <877fvjj5kx.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43887) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNP1b-0005Mu-Ol for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:00:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNP1Y-0004Ov-0f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:59:59 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNP1X-0004Od-RA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:59:55 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YNP1U-0000FG-Cj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:59:52 +0100 Received: from c-67-169-117-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([67.169.117.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:59:52 +0100 Received: from richard.lawrence by c-67-169-117-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:59:52 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Time for another crazy idea. Last one on my side for today > > [cite ...] [(cite) ...] [Cite ...] [(Cite) ...] > > It should solve the :capitalize issue. I am OK with this if it is important, though I am a little hesitant. In the last thread, you expressed concern that we not have too much variation after the opening `[' for performance reasons, which is why I kept all the (non-simple) citations to `[cite: ...]'. Unless you have changed your mind, I assume this means we should try not to have very many options for this position. Expressing capitalization here would mean there are now four options, two of which are devoted to expressing capitalization. Is capitalization important enough to introduce the complexity for it at *this* crucial syntactic position? If we're trying to keep the number of variants after `[' low, we should think carefully about what is important enough to go there. (I think parenthetical vs. in-text does meet that bar, but I am not sure special-case capitalization does.) Aesthetically, this feels a little *too* much like BibLaTeX to me. I would actually prefer [cite: @vanOrden60] %%(:capitalize t) or [cite: @vanOrden60]{:capitalize t}. But like I said, I'm fine with this if it's important. Best, Richard