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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Allen Li <vianchielfaura@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should org-insert-todo-heading be a state change?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:22:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87379ze5kq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJr1M6ehBcA_oBgjm_yo+X9T31+PyeY8O1XF=MFBFehF-f+b1Q@mail.gmail.com> (Allen Li's message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:51:16 -0700")

Hello,

Allen Li <vianchielfaura@gmail.com> writes:

> Org mode allows logging timestamps and making notes when changing to a
> TODO keyword:
>
>    TODO(!) | DONE(!)
>
> However, org-insert-todo-heading does not respect this.
>
> I'm wondering whether it should.  For example, given the above
> keywords, the intent would most likely be to log when TODO headings
> are created and when they are marked finished.
>
> If one were to create a heading and mark it TODO using C-c C-t, then
> the state change would be logged.  In other words, making a heading a
> TODO entry is considered a state change from " " to "some todo
> keyword".
>
> However, if one were to use C-S-RET, the new TODO heading would not
> have a timestamp logged.
>
> I can't think of a situation where the current behavior is desirable,
> so I am inclined to think that treating the creation of a TODO heading
> as a state change from a normal heading to a TODO heading would be
> more convenient.

My gut feeling is that the current behaviour is also correct, and
possibly less surprising. "changing" and "creating" are two different
concepts.

Besides, I suspect that many users create TODO headings with 

  M-RET T O D O SPC

in which case the behaviour you suggest would create a discrepancy.

Eventually, in contrast to TODO state changes, you need to be at the
future headline location to create it. IOW, it is very easy to add
a note upon creating the headline.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

      reply	other threads:[~2017-07-14  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-14  6:51 Should org-insert-todo-heading be a state change? Allen Li
2017-07-14  9:22 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]

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