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From: Adrian Bradd <adrian.bradd@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: Org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]")
Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 19:26:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736z5d6qm.fsf@columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871sevime2.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>


> I remember that Magit experimented displaying a message the 
> first time
> you used a new release; you would silence it only by setting a 
> variable.
> I don't think this is the case anymore, so it may have failed, 
> though.

I believe this was for the Magit Kickstarter fundraiser. A message 
was displayed to notify users and direct them to the page. This 
message stayed in place until the Kickstarter was completed, but 
could be disabled prematurely by altering a variable. I can't 
speak to its success or failure overall, but there were some 
complaints about the method [1].

> We could also make the <https://orgmode.org/Changes.html> page 
> more
> prominent in the summary displayed along with the package.

This seems like a step in the right direction. Perhaps adding a 
section to the Introduction in the manual about the changes page 
or ORG-NEWS and their importance with major or .X releases might 
help.

My experience as a newcomer to org with the 8.x to 9.x transition 
was that most of the posts relating to org at the time (on reddit 
at least) mentioned breaking changes and the ORG-NEWS file.

With regard to the poll, I don't have a strong opinion as I am now 
using yasnippet with org. When I was using org-tempo I didn't see 
any issue with having to require it in my init. So I suppose my 
vote would be that disabling by default is 
fine. `org-insert-structure-template' bound to a key seems like a 
reasonable alternative especially since it operates on regions.

Cheers,

[1] https://github.com/magit/magit/issues/3174

--
Adrian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-05 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-29 15:06 [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]") Jon Snader
2018-04-30 20:37 ` Richard Lawrence
2018-04-30 20:46   ` Peter Dewey Ore
2018-04-30 21:33     ` Michael Gauland
2018-04-30 21:46   ` Jon Snader
2018-04-30 22:25     ` Tim Cross
2018-04-30 22:35       ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-04-30 22:39       ` Jon Snader
2018-04-30 22:49         ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-01  1:29           ` Alan Tyree
2018-05-01 14:07             ` Christophe Schockaert
2018-05-01  2:00         ` Tim Cross
2018-05-01  2:27           ` Steve Downey
2018-05-01 12:35             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-01 16:28               ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-05 18:07                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-06 20:34                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-06 22:11                     ` Tim Cross
2018-05-07 22:30                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  0:25                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  7:36                         ` Bastien
2018-05-13 20:52                         ` Rasmus
2018-05-01 16:54               ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-05-05 18:01               ` Rasmus
2018-05-06  5:00                 ` Carsten Dominik
2018-05-07 22:33                   ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  7:37                 ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:35                   ` Rasmus
2018-05-05 23:26               ` Adrian Bradd [this message]
2018-05-05 23:37                 ` Josiah Schwab
2018-05-08  7:31               ` Bastien
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-04-29 10:24 Bastien
2018-04-29 10:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-29 11:05   ` Bastien
2018-04-29 12:01     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-29 13:22       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 17:40         ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-04-29 20:56           ` Bastien
2018-04-29 22:05             ` Tim Cross
2018-04-29 22:31               ` Bastien
2018-04-29 22:27         ` Tim Cross
2018-04-29 23:03           ` Bastien
2018-04-30 10:29             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-30 14:03               ` Kevin Foley
2018-04-30 14:17                 ` Kevin Foley
2018-05-05 17:20                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-02 12:43             ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-08  6:23               ` Bastien
2018-05-05 17:17             ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:27               ` Bastien
2018-05-01 15:49           ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-01 19:31             ` Eric S Fraga
2018-05-02  9:10             ` Rasmus Pank Roulund
2018-05-02 17:12               ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-05 17:29                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-06 20:02                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-07 22:53                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  0:57                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  6:56                         ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:24                         ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:52                   ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:19                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:34             ` Bastien
2018-04-30  8:47         ` Eric S Fraga
2018-05-08  8:37       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 13:24     ` Christian Moe
2018-04-29 13:55     ` Charles Millar
2018-04-29 19:08     ` Diego Zamboni
2018-04-29 20:30       ` Rasmus
2018-04-29 20:44       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 23:32     ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-02 20:24       ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-03  9:44         ` Carsten Dominik
2018-05-03 13:30           ` William Denton
2018-05-04  7:34             ` Neil Jerram
2018-05-04  7:45               ` Bastien
2018-05-05  1:37                 ` Samuel Wales
2018-05-05  2:16                   ` Tim Cross
2018-05-05  2:28                     ` Samuel Wales
2018-05-05  2:37                       ` Tim Cross
2018-05-05 12:42                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-05 17:33                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-01 11:57     ` Nick Helm
2018-04-29 20:25   ` Rasmus
2018-04-29 21:53     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-02  9:03       ` Rasmus
2018-04-30 16:36 ` Steve Downey

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