From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id WKNNIGYd5GH7awEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 14:28:06 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id +FgJGWYd5GFK/AAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 14:28:06 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5CB418B25 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 14:28:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44922 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n95Zj-0003md-Iv for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:28:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52556) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n95YV-0003fo-UU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:26:54 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:33069) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n95YS-0005b5-SX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:26:47 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7A65240101 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 14:26:41 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1642339601; bh=aGrTi2EWeUTcMVrvGFG1BDP5j4yxfApMPtUnYmCR0p8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=cNJw8GrAGIMNicmo7U/wBkN/tkft1Y1nqe7lDLeY7knwCish2oX6Vac1GjyIBbf/8 KkbO6ZBndYZoliOwxtPsz3NMPe0aZgfBJgDohlS+8UxNkIRWl3dhnMp8Zf2YNbhtzy R2Ju5iv/awNGCCWbcRJytHdTDDgkiGYtREYmM8jR7+7wDXjJYNQ40yTHsH/8cmccqv pGAZqark/wHVGaQyokzrd+eD0NU0Umszgs1Od2OMifGu3NMhe+tOHXm4gxgai59lWC 9FWA4v64LeI3GyRuWoSf6Bp8pRj2KE65oC+RQDu3M3b1oAj4zRxnoaRJd9UMRccJ2U xSIBiQrnaR8oQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JcG5r5SrSz6tmv; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 14:26:40 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Colin Baxter , Timothy , =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Miquel Subject: Re: Depreciating TeX-style LaTeX fragments References: <871r1g936z.fsf@gmail.com> <87lezgly20.fsf@gmail.com> <1d89ed13-328b-dd8a-c93d-78c64e8f90c9@posteo.eu> <87h7a4j9mt.fsf@yandex.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:26:39 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87h7a4j9mt.fsf@yandex.com> (Colin Baxter's message of "Sun, 16 Jan 2022 09:46:34 +0000") Message-ID: <871r17g6b4.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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If you're a LaTeX user, you're already using LaTeX3 to a very high extent, even if you don't see it. The current idea is not to replace LaTeX2e with LaTeX3 as a new version, but to gradually incorporate elements of LaTeX3 into the LaTeX kernel, like the new syntax, xparse, etc. LaTeX3 is already present in many aspects of LaTeX, and that is an undeniable advance. If anyone is interested in the state of the art, this short talk by Frank Mittelbach at TUG 2020 is very illustrative: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=zNci4lcb8Vo Best regards, Juan Manuel