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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672673354; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=bnFRJOuGYhoC4oZRhxpuz87v3Q5yL700psRj7FnMky0=; b=Z0PHo/jAeYZ3GnOpLC5cUkx8/tZVjbYE1mqJuVmQVsnRs8WQKoKvAZlGAfb2qMaY3EDvJ2 7yK2bhFG45fzGW0CGE2bYP4AZRzumcHdRMeOookhWbEcYebTlEGnaImLMq3bGTzLilIbWu rECF8583BteKHRhrJD0pLr1GnPSR75UQZveVyGstVsbJTkPzXyGhTTuRvapXj67+8zR8gz H28ajQHRlLz0gt/ccBlh6onDK7CIYf3uP6Bvi0ciuuigZQd65r3jQqE8hemvjGkDX2gtET wKn79eRGD87h5GebXqPro172DCWu0VrAdYn567pcgYDQq8l8IstcGFBDFmZ+Yw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=oKvailVV; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672673354; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=eWrapg93HxB3bO7ienQa7IlSXP7rJbRRPXwRyWk1hvA5Olebi23DNd9CuQBf+tzRD3XG1L TzdrDtKN2Vd5V/0emCxCykedyzvw/sT9bFKfmD1t3bM0fmodcGMdbpQmgKuRBQUEYaVZTu kqyFMgsp1rt7HbdTx17b22F1qD0SUfWbqOikwbg+mxK8XEVaBRdVojbsG9/eniJbOSSbu8 dl024K7NcH3lM5Q1sRgylg/GdEk5re6GkGlwecMTRP24lVbfJP6i4Kw2mC5Uc51vH3xBs9 /T0JXocaxldl/P0E/0VcgSvG5kcE5EFIkBZJSDDJu6hAiPVT07GLQ1QQ7maRhg== X-Spam-Score: -6.49 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5131714136 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=oKvailVV; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.49 X-TUID: g6xtkKKhkRAE Ihor Radchenko writes: > I do not really expect much interest as long as the orphaned packages > keep working. And, more importantly, as long as the original package > source (like Github) does not direct users to Org ML. > > Package users are the most likely people who will be interested to take > over the maintenance. Agreed for all the above. To be sure that we are not miscommunicating, my point is that we can advertize https://orgmode.org/worg/org-orphanage.html as a place where anyone can document orphan Org packages, then once there are enough packages on this page, we can try solving the other problem, that of providing a new shelter for these packages. Does that make sense? -- Bastien